Question On HNM's

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- folks can read your post if they want to see everything you said -

Not going to respond to each point individually, because at the end of it, what you're basically doing is arguing against people having another option of how to obtain items, for no other reason than:

1) You were doing "real HNMs" while people were doing Valkurm Emperor - I have no idea how that's relevant at all to the conversation and, frankly, seems like gratuitous ego-stroking on your part. What you were camping or when has absolutely zero relevance to this discussion, or the suggestion I've put forth. How the drops were handled on the HNMs you fought back when you fought them is not the kind of system I'm suggesting.

2) You don't enjoy aspects of it yourself - You are not, nor do you represent everybody.

3) You don't know anyone who "genuinely enjoyed it" - Irrelevant. You do not know nor represent the preferences of every player on every server.

4) You can't imagine anyone enjoying the camping aspect of it - That's called an Appeal To Incredulity. It's a logical fallacy, not a valid counter-argument. That you can't imagine there's anyone who would enjoy it has no bearing on the fact that there are.

So your entire argument is based around what you personally like or dislike, what you presume others like or don't like, and whether or not you can believe someone would like something you don't like.

The thing is.. people have stated - right in these forums - that they'd like to have that kind of content in the game. A few people I've spoken to in-game have noted that they'd like to have that kind of content in the game.

Even if they only accounted for 20% of the population, that's still 20% of the population who would have the option to partake in content they enjoy.

I absolutely can not understand what you would have against that... beyond not wanting content to be in the game unless you like it personally.

As for 1-to-1 matches hardly ever happening in rare drops...Whether or not you were fighting HNMs while others were fighting NMs, or when you were fighting them is, again, completely irrelevant to the point I'm making. The point I'm making is that a system such as that used for regular NM drops could also be implemented in XIV to the same effect - giving people the option of how they prefer to obtain a certain item which would have the same stats no matter how it's obtained.

A person with an Emperor Hairpin was statistically no better or worse off than someone with an Empress Hairpin. Outside the rare/ex status, they're identical. The only difference is how the item was obtained and that people had the option of how they preferred to get one for them self.

Despite your best efforts to paint yourself otherwise, despite all your rationalizations, your overall stance fits you squarely into the category of people I speak out against regularly... those who feel that because they don't like something, that it shouldn't exist - even if they have the option not to do it.

Edit: Just saw this post by you, Shipp, and it was so perfect that I just had to edit it in.. Consider it a reminder for you to not be a hypocrite, delivered in your own words.