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    So basically 2 warriors and a dragoon just said Nah you don't need to be able to defend your self at all. So basically by your standard your dps classes shouldn't have any utility right your job is to do dps so why you need an escape, or a stun or a slow?

    You reaction to healers have half there bar being useless is i want my heals so your not allowed to hurt anyone but yourself?
    Moral of the story here now is basically if you wanna be a healer you need to be reliant on dps to get anything done, but if your dps a healer would make your life easier but it not needed because u can still get objectives done.


    O gtfo people like you will refuse to heal on purpose.
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    Last edited by Mnemosynia; 04-20-2017 at 01:58 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mnemosynia View Post
    So basically 2 warriors and a dragoon just said Nah you don't need to be able to defend your self at all.
    I've played healer in over 1000 matches of FL and a great deal in feast ( i leveled healers just for pvp actually, scarcely heal in pve) and I know how to defend myself without personal dps thank you very much. I've listed 4 ways you can turn offensive abilities in pve into defensive abilities in pvp. You'd be wise to follow them.

    You could also...idk, outheal damage taken or ask communicate with your team mates and tell them to defend you especially if you have a paladin with you. Use your pvp abilities and pve utility too. Research is all it takes. You'd then realise that stone 3 and malefic 2 are useless in pvp as it requires cast time and even with CS it won't do as much damage as any real dps.

    You seem to have no idea what you're talking about. healers aren't useless. Try playing monk or dragoon when you have battle high/fever without one when you're up against more than one opponent then you'll see what i mean.
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    Last edited by Venoshock; 04-20-2017 at 02:45 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mnemosynia View Post
    So basically 2 warriors and a dragoon just said Nah you don't need to be able to defend your self at all.

    O gtfo people like you will refuse to heal on purpose.
    You want screenshots of my pvp healing achievements? Yes, I am a warrior main. However, I heal in pvp, both Frontlines and Feast. I'm almost to my third Wolf in White Robes achievement. I've got my Gloria key. The other wins were on other roles because I'm versatile, and I'm not gonna be one of those people who queue in and refuse to change because they want kills.

    A good healer is VERY hard to kill in pvp but you're not there to do damage, though I do delight in getting a Rampage. Healers are there to heal, stoneskin, and cc. If I want to get kills I roll Bard.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bounddreamer View Post
    You want screenshots of my pvp healing achievements? Yes, I am a warrior main. However, I heal in pvp, both Frontlines and Feast. I'm almost to my third Wolf in White Robes achievement. I've got my Gloria key. The other wins were on other roles because I'm versatile, and I'm not gonna be one of those people who queue in and refuse to change because they want kills.

    A good healer is VERY hard to kill in pvp but you're not there to do damage, though I do delight in getting a Rampage. Healers are there to heal, stoneskin, and cc. If I want to get kills I roll Bard.
    Okay so if we can just say what classes are there to do i can say tanks are there to tank so they should have no damage at all. Just remove all offense abilities and replace them with cc's.

    Thats what your argument is right there.

    And further more tanks are hard to kill to so if thats the case they should be unable to kill anyone ever anyways. Again by your standards.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mnemosynia View Post
    Okay so if we can just say what classes are there to do i can say tanks are there to tank so they should have no damage at all. Just remove all offense abilities and replace them with cc's.

    Thats what your argument is right there.
    Tanks don't work the same in pvp as they do in pve, either. It's one of the reasons I hate playing tank in pvp, though I will if no one else does.

    There isn't an enmity table in pvp. I can't provoke someone off a healer. I can, however, go harass and stun lock the other team's healers or hold someone in place for the dps to burst them down. But I can't actually "tank" opposing team members. That's why tanks roll dps stance unless they need tank stance if they're getting jumped.

    Not sure what you mean by "argument." My intent is to inform. You decided my point was invalid because I have "warrior" up by my name. I'm providing more information that I do, in fact, heal pvp.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bounddreamer View Post
    Tanks don't work the same in pvp as they do in pve, either. It's one of the reasons I hate playing tank in pvp, though I will if no one else does.

    TherThat's why tanks roll dps stance unless they need tank stance if they're getting jumped.
    Yep, they roll dps unless they getting ganked then they go into tank stance, and if they don't have to go into tank stance they go into dps stance and wait for it do damage.

    I roll heals and if im ganked i run away and when im in those moments when i don't have to heal and i have a low hp target in front me what you know what i do, i wait for a dps to do something or wait for the enemy to run.

    WHY CAN'T YOU SEE what i do?
    People get to multi task and be viable in different stages of the fight but not healers no you have one job and only that job.
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    Last edited by Mnemosynia; 04-20-2017 at 04:27 AM.