Wondering about an (new) Tanking class I would love :3

[Kaethra]

My vote is for this Specifically Geomancer, I even made a concept with them using a variety of shields to both attack and defend: tinyurl.com/geotank

Negation is a bit OP. But other than that, that looks kinda cool. Hell get the artists together and the class is pretty much made for the most part.

[Eloah]

I'm somewhat familiar with Japanese swords and other tools of the trade. As for the ninjatō, there is very very few in game. The level 50 relic weapon for example and what is glamoured to my ninja. If you look at the majority of of the in-game ninja weapons, they are most definitely not ninjatō, as ninjatō only have 1 sharp edge.
Daggers on the other hand can have both sides sharpened. a dagger has certain definable characteristics, including: a short blade with a sharply tapered point, a central spine or fuller, and usually two cutting edges sharpened the full length of the blade.

I think the main thing I was trying to convey got sorta lost. I was trying to indicate that the "Ninja", as in the Job itself, weapons are based around Ninjato more than traditional daggers, not even Ninjato specifically but short swords in general. There are a few that are shaped like Sais, Machetes, Butterfly Swords, basically any type of short sword. As you indicated yourself a "true" dagger has defining characteristics that very few of the Ninja weapons have, and mostly any "true" daggers are low level items for when you are still a Rogue. Though there are a few in end game, but you'll notice they are much longer than they should be to be a "dagger"

That's actually incorrect. We use the knife-like daggers because of Rogue, the Nin Katanas are used only a couple times. Daggers would be piercing if Rogue went into Thief, but since it went into Ninja, they made it slashing to accommodate the addition of Katanas in the roster, which was probably going to be more numerous than they have been.

Yes and no, while it is true that we inherited the "weapon" from being Rogues, you'll notice a starkly different design choice on the early weapons when you'd only be a Rogue to becoming a Ninja at end game. Very few end game weapons for ninja are actual daggers, the majority of their weapons are short swords. The main reason I used the term Ninjato is because, well it is a ninja, lol. The other thing is non of their weapons are Katanas at all. In addition to Katanas not really being used by ninjas, the way a Katana is supposed to be used, not to mention the size of it, it could not be wielded backwards.

Negation is a bit OP. But other than that, that looks kinda cool. Hell get the artists together and the class is pretty much made for the most part.

thank you I worked really hard on it, and I will most likely update it once SB releases and we know how the battle system changes. Also I can see how Negation seems OP and honestly it might be. But i envisioned it as their invincible skill, they take no damage, and anyone in area takes no damage either, including the enemy. Like if you pop it while fighting a mob of 5 enemies and they are all in the field they'll take no damage, that was the trade off I saw. But if you or anyone else has any ideas I am always open to them.

[Stitches1974]

I think the main thing I was trying to convey got sorta lost. I was trying to indicate that the "Ninja", as in the Job itself, weapons are based around Ninjato more than traditional daggers, not even Ninjato specifically but short swords in general. There are a few that are shaped like Sais, Machetes, Butterfly Swords, basically any type of short sword. As you indicated yourself a "true" dagger has defining characteristics that very few of the Ninja weapons have, and mostly any "true" daggers are low level items for when you are still a Rogue. Though there are a few in end game, but you'll notice they are much longer than they should be to be a "dagger"

They also have double edges that put them out of most sword categories. . Granted my ninja is only 57, I still see more dagger types than sword types, even though they are abominations. Going through http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...1&category3=84 still shows more dagger like weapons than anything at higher levels, except the higher stages of the anima. Those look like Jian


I also agree with you about there being no katana in game.

[Eloah]

Post that made a lot of sense but is hard to edit on a tablet

Yes, thank you, Jian is a great example. And thank you for finding the word, there were a lot of types to sift through so I only went with the ones I was familiar with, lol. Also keep in mind that a sword of any kind can be double edged, most European swords are, regardless of size, whereas the longer an "asian" sword gets the more likely it will only have one side to it. But anyways as with what started this topic, lol, thats the reason why they have slashing not piercing.