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  1. #51
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    Talya Stormbreaker
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nixxe View Post
    I'm like 99% sure you're asking for a significant net loss to the group's DPS just to avoid the DRK having to put even one iota of thought into how they use their abilities.
    It's really not. Go in with a premade and have them parse a massive pull. Waiting until blood price falls off to do your holy spam is not a huge ask. And I'm not saying "don't dps." I'm saying "show some awareness and consideration with respect to an ability the tank just put up, which is dependent on the group of enemies NOT being stunned."
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  2. #52
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    Nixx Delumi
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    Quote Originally Posted by bounddreamer View Post
    It's really not. Go in with a premade and have them parse a massive pull. Waiting until blood price falls off to do your holy spam is not a huge ask. And I'm not saying "don't dps." I'm saying "show some awareness and consideration with respect to an ability the tank just put up, which is dependent on the group of enemies NOT being stunned."
    I've seen the numbers, which is why I don't believe you.
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  3. #53
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nixxe View Post
    I've seen the numbers, which is why I don't believe you.
    Okay. Do you mean you did it both ways, with holy spamming through blood price, and holding it til blood price was over? Or are you just hinging this solely on your holy spam regardless?
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  4. #54
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    Sargatanas
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    Quote Originally Posted by bounddreamer View Post
    Okay. Do you mean you did it both ways, with holy spamming through blood price, and holding it til blood price was over? Or are you just hinging this solely on your holy spam regardless?
    I know what my AOE and single target DPS look like, and what you're asking for will in many cases result in me missing the window in which AOE makes sense. Whether Blood Price is up or not is immaterial. It can be understood as you wanting me to not DPS for the first 15 seconds of a trash pull. It's also where the value of Holy's stun is the greatest, since it reduces the most incoming damage. Whatever anyone may think of WHM DPS, WHM reducing the damage people take is definitely in line with my job as a healer. As nice as Blood Price is, the DRK has other ways to get mana back, and not min/maxing Blood Price isn't going to leave them unable to use Unleash ever again.
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  5. #55
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    Arkain Stormfury
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    Quote Originally Posted by SaitoHikari View Post
    Dear Warriors.

    If I'm a Bard, use Berserk. Trust in me, I will get you with my Paean.

    Unless there's two of you. Then, uh... ._.
    I would trust you, but..... your cohorts fail me utterly 99% of the time. A bard who actually uses Paean to prevent my pacification gets my comm every time.
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    Last edited by Bloody; 04-24-2017 at 11:46 PM. Reason: spelling
    Pro DPS tactic: Big glowing orange AOE = "Stand here to boost your DPS!"
    ~Non Requiem Aeternum~

  6. #56
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    Beo Kusanagi
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nixxe View Post
    You do realize LB gets wasted half the time because neither DPS uses it, right?
    The DPS you have been paired with over the years have wasted LB 50% of the time? It's been an extremely rare occurrence for me and I main SCH.

    A lot of your other comments seem bizarre too. Hmmm... To each his own I guess.
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  7. #57
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cadmus83 View Post
    The DPS you have been paired with over the years have wasted LB 50% of the time? It's been an extremely rare occurrence for me and I main SCH.

    A lot of your other comments seem bizarre too. Hmmm... To each his own I guess.
    It seems likely that wasn't meant to be an exact figure, but simply to convey that the DPS often make poor or no use of LB, which is probably why healers are telling DPS to LB.
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  8. #58
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    Liza Sol
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    Culinarian Lv 70
    From Tank and DPS:
    Dear healers, is it okay for me to stand AFK and click 1 button every 15-20 seconds? If not, then I ask you the same.
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  9. #59
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    Fisher Lv 100
    Dear healers,

    Raise priority goes like this:
    Tanks > Healers > MCH/BRD/SMN > DRG/NIN/MNK/BLM and not the other way around.
    (1)
    "BAAAAAARD!" - 2018

  10. #60
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    Vanitas Olterian
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    Leviathan
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    Dark Knight Lv 80
    Dear dps,
    If the party has agreed to big pull, and your job is more than capable of it, please make an effort to aoe the pack. Otherwise why am I even bothering?

    Love,
    Your salty tank.
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