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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadygrove View Post
    Thank you. Made the macro
    A variant is to remove CZ (convenient if people don't have it yet, or want to keep cross-skills to the minimum), and switch the second SH2 to SH1 and use a standard touch instead of the last BT. 425 CP.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cgbspender View Post
    A variant is to remove CZ (convenient if people don't have it yet, or want to keep cross-skills to the minimum), and switch the second SH2 to SH1 and use a standard touch instead of the last BT. 425 CP.
    Good to see you active here, cgbspender! *wave wave wave*

    Actually, ST is 14 CP (+) more than BT, and SH is 3 CP (-) fewer than SH II, so the extra CP in the end is 11 (+).
    418 + 11 = 429 CP needed, and this is still using CZ. If you remove CZ, then it'll be 443 needed.

    Considering the fact that I personally have 425 base CP, it is actually valid since I can eat a Stone Soup and reach 442 CP.

    If you're using ST, I think it's actually more beneficial to move Innov earlier to cover the ST. This renders Ingen2 unable to cover Blessing, but the final quality might be higher.

    However, with this arrangement, you won't be able to fit in Byregot's Brow as a "Poor" condition protector for Blessing, because SH makes Brow unsafe, and also fitting Brow over GS doesn't make sense, as GS is 2x in power, while a "Good" + Brow would be significantly less powerful.

    Omitting CZ does make the process 1 step faster. But with all these complications, I'd rather swap out Manipulation for Master's Mend instead like elfolampo suggested earlier. It's only 4 CP more, but it does the job of saving a cross class slot, and I can still fit in a Byregot's Brow.

    Please see the analysis below:
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    Last edited by Caimie_Tsukino; 04-17-2017 at 02:18 PM.

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    Oh my bad, I meant to do it without Innovation at all, forgot to mention, thus making it 425
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