PLD synergy issues

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This problem with the tanks is balance between them all and trying to make them all the "samey" for just being a tank. When I play MNK it plays TOTALLY different then say my SMN. And for good reason. Because that's a play style that works for each class. I have some grips with MNK and the constant spamming chakra (so annoying), but the dps mnk offers is great.

I don't understand why they really try to make all the tanks play the same just for the masses to "use them more" or "we would really like to see more PLD". That's a crap excuse. Just make the class viable in it's own right. Don't adjust it to make it more like WAR's dps level. Just offer something that makes the class unique. Shields need to offer more for the class honestly, it's our bread and butter.
I think it's time that PLD get's the spell reflect!
This would make the class unique and gives the PLD more of it's knight/mage ethos.
Food for thought. Thoughts?

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I don't understand why they really try to make all the tanks play the same just for the masses to "use them more" or "we would really like to see more PLD". That's a crap excuse. Just make the class viable in it's own right. Don't adjust it to make it more like WAR's dps level. Just offer something that makes the class unique. Shields need to offer more for the class honestly, it's our bread and butter.
I think it's time that PLD get's the spell reflect!
This would make the class unique and gives the PLD more of it's knight/mage ethos.
Food for thought. Thoughts?

There is a reason why i felt that holding off on a new tank and healer isnt the worst decision they can make.
Look at 2.0 warrior as an example of why they had to make it the monster it is today, same for AST actually
The problem with both roles is that they have to do their job as same as the others if not better in regards, dps can get away with a less strenuous sort of mechanic. All the big fights are predictable and require tanks to mitigate in short bursts or tank busters, on demand. And healers have to have a similar kit to meet that, big heal small heal, group heal raise,esuna you get the point. 2.0 WAR was meant to mitigate by lifetapping, which really didnt work out as much as popping cooldowns with mitigation burst, so they were retooled. Ast having lower potencies with their heals, got them retooled among other things and yet now theyre both good, but it still isnt balanced properly.

The biggest problem seems to be synergy between the roles, esp when WAR/WAR and AST/AST seems to be the best choice if not for the limit break being slower

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The biggest problem seems to be synergy between the roles, esp when WAR/WAR and AST/AST seems to be the best choice if not for the limit break being slower

It would be real nice if people could stop spreading misinformation like this, because that's how we get bad balance choices like giving PLD more magic resist even though mitigation isn't the problem. DRK brings almost identical dps to WAR, and it also brings the most raidwide mitigation of the tanks through Reprisal and Delirium. Stacking 2 WARs doesn't have a single advantage over DRK + WAR. Stacking 2 ASTs would get you more card uptime, but it also means that you're missing out on the unique skills a SCH gets like Sacred Soil, Supervirus, Eye for an Eye and an absolute ton of free healing from the fairy. I'm pretty sure job stacking hasn't been the optimal composition since 2.0 with PLD.

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Last night i decided to play my PLD in a pug and then my DRK in a pug. Very stark difference in tanking methods, BUT the same effect. Only difference I noticed mostly is that PLD played with to many options. When to use clemency or not, divine veil or wait we have scholar shield, ugh!
Openers: Fight or Flight, Rampart
My main rotation: Shield Lob, Flash, Flash, CoS, 123 RoH combo, Flash, Flash, sheltron, Goring Blade combo, Flash; Generally sprinkle Bulwark and Sentinel in there

After main rotation into advanced rotation:Royal combo, sheltron, Goring combo, Flash, CoS, Sheltron, Royal combo, Divine Veil, Clemancy; Generally sprinkle Rampart, FoF, Convalescence, Awareness.

NOW THE PROBELM. The AOE in this rotation is just that, ALL I have is flash and CoS. Thats it! For me I hate trash pulls in raids, pugs. People generally don't care about enmity. Never had this problem with my DRK.