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  1. #8841
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    bounddreamer's Avatar
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    Talya Stormbreaker
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    Lamia
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    Warrior Lv 70
    Adding to the Dun Scaith healing horror stories, I had a bad one yesterday morning. Queued on WHM and got a co-WHM. She had Sindri Lux and near BiS WHM gear. (I was using 260 relic, on the light step, and full 270 left/right though I'm specced toward Noct AST).

    From the very first fight, the other WHM decided she was full time dps. And she decided that before people started dropping like flies. I was raising people to almost every mechanic. She raised maybe once, I raised probably five times. That was just the first fight.

    Every fight was like that. She would drop out of cleric and heal maybe once per encounter, except for Proto Ultima where she died too, then started healing after that.

    I've done a fair amount of healing in Dun Scaith and that was one of the worst runs ever, and we didn't have a bard or machinist and I don't carry max ethers. At Diabolos Hollow I was completely out of MP from raising. Somehow we managed not to wipe.

    I actually did get five comms because I think people saw how hard I was trying (and the fact the other WHM was in cleric stance for almost the whole run and only used raise when I was dead). And I felt so bad for it because I just wanted to do better by everyone. It was 50 minutes of constant triage.

    Also, we had the main tank. So it was my absolute priority to keep him up, and all I could to was try my best for the rest of the party. Thankfully we never wiped. Our MT bowed to me at the end.
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    Last edited by bounddreamer; 04-13-2017 at 02:39 AM.

  2. #8842
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    Amirya's Avatar
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    Amirya Lyndress
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    Ultros
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    Astrologian Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Raven_Darkstar View Post
    So, rant time. Dun Scaith healing shenanigans
    I wonder if you and I were in the same raid...our Alliance A had an AST and a WHM and a mostly consistently dead group. And our Diabolos Hollow involved A/C tanks disappearing into the central door, leaving the B AST (me!) to tank the one cerebus.

    And I did bitch to my co-healer (SCH) about how A's WHM was almost always dead (or useless)...
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  3. #8843
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    HyoMinPark's Avatar
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    Hyomin Park
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    Sage Lv 100
    So. As I type this, I have ended up in a Seph EX PF that was advertised as a farm, but I am now being told that it is actually a LEARNING party. And there are people refusing to watch a video/read a guide for it, and instead want me to do a "quick rundown" of the fight. Because videos "ruin their experience."

    Pretty sure there is no such thing as "quick rundown" for Seph EX. I'm sure I'll have a good story to tell when I get out of there. >.>

    I normally don't care if people want to run things blind, but Seph EX is a fight I definitely recommend having prior knowledge of/kind of know what to expect. And don't advertise a learning as a FARM when it's clearly not.

    Update: basically just wiped for an hour... first people were messing up Mad Hops, and eventually the last couple pulls they got it down. Then people weren't baiting for the single orb/his large frontal cleave. Add phase actually went pretty smooth, but then people weren't understanding how the debuffs work, or how towers work. Only made it as far as the first set of earthshakers.

    I normally have a bunch of patience for people learning, but when we wipe 5 times to people not handling the debuffs/towers right, and I tell them each time what to do and they still don't do it, I start to lose my patience. I don't know how else to word: "Green up front with Seph, grab orange's tethers, orange move back to the edges, and avoid the big bag green bubbles." :/ Or "DPS to Seph's left (your right), and Heals/OT to Seph's right (your left) for Mad Hops." Or even simply "call your tower."

    I probably ended up on one person's blacklist because I told them they had an unnecessarily hostile attitude, but who cares. That's fine if you wanna learn blind, but don't advertise a blind learning party as a farm. Videos and guides only "ruin your experience" if you let them ruin it. Wiping 10 times to the same thing ruins other people's experiences. Please consider that. :/

    I hurt all over.
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    Last edited by HyoMinPark; 04-13-2017 at 06:16 AM.
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  4. #8844
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    Awful's Avatar
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    Faerie
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Got Saint Arboretums today for my 60 roulette with 2 new guys a BRD and a NIN both had 12-13k hp today, and a tank that was ilvl 262-263 I wanna say, i'm healing on Sch. The tank pulled everything as per dungeons but I cautioned em that our AoE is rather lacking, but I do like a challenge so didn't matter. I knew this run was gonna be weird as everything died verrrrrry slowly they're new and undergeared so doesn't really bother me, what did bug me was this tank was having threat issues with me DPSing, the healer. He also only pops Foresight and that's about it on trash nothing else, first boss goes down slowly but they're down so now we move onto the oh so loveable hive part.

    The tank pulls all of it, which again is fine as we can just skip it but we have new players, i'm telling them to focus the 1 which is the hive walls, the tank isn't popping anything but then he pops HG and then proceeds to tell the new guys to attack the hive. I'm DPSing, healing, and I have 6 things on me, I get final stung dead,wipe. Tell him we would have made it if he kept threat, tank says "lol I didn't wanna tank em all to get stung" I said you can stun them you know but whatever not worth fighting about.

    Rest of the dungeon is fine, (even though i'm tanking at least 3 things per trash pull even up to this point) last boss takes forever to kill but we got the Kedtraps and their AoEs went off, pre shielded, then AoE healed and we were fine but the real kicker that got me was....I checked the dmg and I swear i'm not making this up. I did 64% of the overall dmg as a Sch...the DPS? 12% and 12%, with the tank equaling them at 12%, I get your undergeared but I shouldn't of done THAT much.

    Also the caster boots and coat dropped and I lost em both T_T my tears flooded my room at this point oh well maybe next time.
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    Last edited by Awful; 04-13-2017 at 06:44 AM.

  5. #8845
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    Thoosa's Avatar
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    Thoosa Starburst
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    Lich
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    Black Mage Lv 90
    We got to the end of Cutter's Cry and 2 of us were looking at the loot whilst the others ran on, but when we got to the gate to fight the last boss, the people ahead started and we got locked out, so two of us sat there and the other two did well and beat the boss. After the map ended I received two commendations! :P I guess I must have done well up to the point of the last boss, plus I died once.
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  6. #8846
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    Raven_Darkstar's Avatar
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    Raven Solanace
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    Excalibur
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    Astrologian Lv 80
    Yikes! Nothing like throwing yourself in the deep end there :P
    Hehe, ikr? ;P Ah well, at least I'm no longer terrified at the mere thought of healing a 24 man.


    She was a bad co-healer for sure but typically, I've always been told if it's a WHM and Noct AST, the Noct AST is usually the main healer and the WHM is the offhealer. With noct stance, I think you have more healing potency.
    After the buff Nocturnal Sect got, yes, I do believe they are more potent than a WHM.
    Huh. Good to know. I always figured WHM would be the best MH, but if Noct can do it, well yay. Also goes along with my thinking that it seemed like things got worse after I switched to Diurnal :/. Think I was handling things better as Noct. Welp, live and learn.

    I wonder if you and I were in the same raid...our Alliance A had an AST and a WHM and a mostly consistently dead group. And our Diabolos Hollow involved A/C tanks disappearing into the central door, leaving the B AST (me!) to tank the one cerebus.

    And I did bitch to my co-healer (SCH) about how A's WHM was almost always dead (or useless)...
    That's quite possible. Sounds exactly like my alliance and co-healer. Often dead and mostly useless.
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  7. #8847
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    Saito Hikari
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    Sargatanas
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    Bard Lv 100
    In Dun Scaith, this MCH and I were basically jumping to out-DPS each other for the position of top DPS in the raid.

    We went so overboard with it that at Diabolos, we both ripped aggro off of the tank with our openers and the two of us got plastered to the floor.

    Whoops.
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  8. #8848
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    Naesaki Ashwell
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    Odin
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    Summoner Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by SaitoHikari View Post
    In Dun Scaith, this MCH and I were basically jumping to out-DPS each other for the position of top DPS in the raid.

    We went so overboard with it that at Diabolos, we both ripped aggro off of the tank with our openers and the two of us got plastered to the floor.

    Whoops.
    I can just imagine you looking at each other and going
    "So who won that? It was obviously me! Hahahahaha." xD
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    Everyone needs an internet hug every now and then.


  9. #8849
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    Kirsa Ishtola
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    Balmung
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    Arcanist Lv 37
    Quote Originally Posted by NaesakiAshwell View Post
    They are more than likely casting it just as the tank begins their pull, so thats always going to cause an initial amount of hate.

    I will say it happens a lot when I'm healing because some Tanks are in Speedy Gonazales mode 24/7 and refuse to wait on stoneskin or aspected benefic.
    If I get tanks like that then I just make sure to time my shield and/or stoneskin casts just as the last trash mob is dying. That way they can't run off without it before the next pull. XD
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  10. #8850
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    Hyomin Park
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    Sage Lv 100
    Got Ultros & Typhon in my trial roulette today. Co-healer was another AST.

    They overwrote my Expanded Balance with an Expanded Spire.
    .....

    No one even needed TP.
    This is aside from the fact that, if they had, we had 3 bards AND a machinist as our DPS.
    And then when questioned said: "Heart of the Cards. It was meant to be."
    I freaking hate people. Just gtfo right now. Smdh.
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    Last edited by HyoMinPark; 04-14-2017 at 12:11 AM.

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