Tales from Duty Finder: Some make you laugh, some make you cry. Let's vent.

[bswpayton]

You can carry any group with 3 competent people up until brayflox, you actually need to make an effort there.

Id say even futher than that I have healed as a summoner in qarn level 35 dungeon before no healer, cutters cry you could do with 3 people. Id say not until like stone vigil to av that you need all four. But then it starts back up again with wanderers palace can be three man and so on

[Faliandra]

just another Expert where I kindly asked a brd to play foe. ( i was WHM, other DPS SMN...and we both did really nice dps,far more than the brd anyway).
and got "It shouldnt be needed" as a reply.


just after that, he suddenly went offline. Like, not the kind of disconnect you get when your ISP is acting up,where you see a dc icon over someone's head while they stay logged in for another 2 minutes.
Nope, just offline on the spot. we couldnt votekick right away...so we finished our business and he still wasnt back by then, so I think we can most likely assume that he did that on purpose.

I can only hope and pray that my karma is not gonna go down the drain from hurting someone's feelings over asking him to push a button.
It isnt the first time I've seen this happening either....BRD's suddenly turning butthurt by d/cing or taking penalty over being asked to play their songs.


In all seriousness though:
if you play brd cos you only wanna dps, then AT LEAST bring the big deeps...and if you cant even do that, then at least HELP ME/US carrying YOU, you lazy #!)/&(/§!?%.

/rantsoff

[Aramina]

lol trial roulette, 3m in prog...


Loaded in with the boss, JUST dying... and still got 2 comms. Ahahahahaha ... considering the work I put in on other things and get 0 comms, idk if I should be laughing or crying.

Someone from the same FC as me is in your screenshot! What a small world.

[Awful]

Foes

I asked for Foes in my recent expert was a BRD and a MNK in my group, the BRD ignored me till I asked the 3rd time after 1st boss in Sohm Al HM. The BRD said "We don't have any magic DPS and it lowers my dmg", uhhh what no it doesn't just hit the button!! I swear people either don't know how to read a tooltip, or don't wanna hit 1 button and it's just 1 button. Good lord <.<

[SaitoHikari]

Fun fact: Foe Requiem helps more than just casters. Some physical classes have skills that are considered magic damage, as far as I've been told. The most prominent I can think of are...

Ninja mudras
Dark Knight's Salted Earth, Unmend (and Unleash?), and Dark Passenger. (Not 100% sure on all of these, especially Salted Earth. Abyssal Drain might count too?)

So yes, you fellow Bards better freaking sing, because what else is the MP going to be used for anyway? Unless your co-DPS is so bad at mobbing that you're going to need Paeon to keep your TP to carry all of the mobbing yourself, or there's a Holy-spamming WHM and somehow things still aren't exploding fast enough.

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Not a Duty Roulette story, but this was a thing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qtef6Kray5A

(My FC mates are kinda trolls when it comes to hunts. Hmm, and I can't really hear my own voice in the recordings, hm. ._.)

[Wyntir]

And now begins our story, of the warrior who can't keep aggro, the monk and dragoon who can't stay connected, and the wall the healer wanted to throw herself off of because of it.

Expert Roulette, as SCH. Baelsar's wall.

It started off pretty rough, the tank tried to speed pull but couldn't because he was paper, I thought at first maybe it was his gear. Then I notice he's not in defiance... so pretty much everyone's tanking at least one thing, me included. We get to the boss, still no defiance, the monk and dragoon both end up dying because they end up with boss aggro. I've not said anything until this point, because the tank keeps speed pulling and because he's squishy, I haven't had time to between heal spamming. I tell him to turn defiance on, he does and the rest of that boss goes fine. I do notice the monk and dragoon both getting the disconnect symbols over there heads though for a few seconds at a time, but they at that point were able to stay connected. Everything was better until the last trash pull, where the dragoon completely DC'd, and the monk had a good 30 second lag spike. So the tank's running around in circles with that last huge pull on him, trying to avoid getting hit until they're back to kill it. Monk's connection catches up, we kill the trash and he tells us the dragoon's logging back in. So we wait.

Griffin time! The tank does MAYBE one aggro combo on the boss and switches to deliverance. AGGRO HOT POTATO TIME! First the monk, who gets smooshed, so I res him. Then the dragoon gets flatted almost immediately after. Griffin starts doing his half room thing, so I don't have time to hard res the dragoon and then I get restraint collar'd. The monk DCs while the dragoon's dead, I'm in a restraint collar, but its ok because the tank's at least got aggro, even if he doesn't hit the collar once. I die, we wipe. We run back, waiting on the monk to log back in. He gets online, still has to release because he died, but the tank decides to start passive aggressively ready check spamming. The monk wasn't even back to the party and he had done at least 3.

Griffin, take 2! Guess who goes into deliverance and loses aggro? DING DING DING! WE HAVE A WINNER! And a loser, considering the boss smooshed the monk. This time I tell the tank to just leave defiance on. Does he listen? Does this sound like a run with someone who makes sense and uses logic? Pshhhh. I spent the rest of that fight, babysitting the monk and dragoon who keep getting aggro and praying my restraint collar will die in time. If I could throw my character off the wall at the end and die, I would have.

[Raven_Darkstar]

So, rant time.

I finally decide to stop being a scaredy cat healer about healing 24 mans, Dun Scaith in particular, and queue up for it, with the bf as DRG for moral support. Now, this was my very first 24 man as healer, and my first run of Dun Scaith. I was terrified I'd screw up and get raged at, but, gotta suck it up and get it over with at some point, right?

My god, was I right to be scared. Not for the possibility of nastiness from other players however. I should have been afraid of my co-healer. This WHM just... ugh. The chic was literal dead weight. I think I saw Medica II once the ENTIRE raid. >.< Not expecting this, though of course I should have (it is after all the way almost every single trial I've done has been), I go into Nocturnal on seeing a WHM. I'm thinking 'whew, she'll main heal and I can get a feel for things and just throw out shields and support'. Ha ha ha ha. Yeah, Nope.

I noticed soon enough that people were not being healed, so meh, did my best with my shields and heals to keep everyone going. Minimal deaths, not too bad all the way through Ferdiad and Proto Ultima. Still, I figure best to switch to Diurnal, cause clearly regens were needed. And honestly, I don't have that much experience using Nocturnal.

Scathach and Diabolos; here was where my nightmare truly began. Picture yourself in my shoes; with most of your alliance dead, desperately trying to get everyone back up and to follow mechanics you can't entirely pay attention to, Because of All the Freaking Dead People! Why were all these people dead you ask? Because Miss WHM was... idk, examining her belly button or something. I'm a pretty decent healer, but solo healing this stuff? It's not in my skill list. At least not yet. ;P

I won't go overboard with details that are honestly getting fuzzy now, but the big finish? My alliance (A) was dead, our tank was the main tank, and when she went down, everytime I got raised, Diabolos smacked me into pancake. Finally, after several raises from the lovely healers of B and C, I manage to get the MT back up before I get killed again, and she manages to inflict a fatal dot on Diabolos. All alliances were dead at this point, expecting a wipe just as I was, I'm sure. But surprise! Achievement pops, Hell is Finally Over.

1 comm. 1. After at least a half hour of solid hell healing. :< I never expect comms, ofc, but it would be nice if more people were able to notice who is actually doing what during a raid.

Anyway, big shout out and thank yous to the wonderful healers of alliances B and C! Thank you for sending those raises my way.

[Wyntir]

I finally decide to stop being a scaredy cat healer about healing 24 mans, Dun Scaith in particular

Yikes! Nothing like throwing yourself in the deep end there :P

My experiences with that place are pretty varied, I've gotten a bunch that do very little other than DPS, if anything at all, and I've had a few that surprised me with how much they were doing just because I'm so used to the lazies. I just did a dun scaith after reset (I go in as sch) and the other healer in my party was also a sch. This usually leads to an internal groan as half the time that this happens, the other scholar sit in cleric 90% of the time and dps. I was surprised to see this guy, not only NOT do that, but was actually utilizing all of our arsenal to make our jobs easier. It was probably one of the only times in raids I've seen another scholar using deployment tactics and indominability. I swear most I run into forget they have them. As soon as the last boss died, I was like "omg thank you for not being lazy ;__;". Also, props to our party's tank who was MTing the run. The other SCH and I would try to get a crit adlo before bosses and whoever got one, deployed it, and as soon as we did, the tank pulled. He never wasted it. I swear, I'm now ruined for all other dun scaith runs. :<

[Ronove]

I go into Nocturnal on seeing a WHM. I'm thinking 'whew, she'll main heal and I can get a feel for things and just throw out shields and support'. Ha ha ha ha. Yeah, Nope.

She was a bad co-healer for sure but typically, I've always been told if it's a WHM and Noct AST, the Noct AST is usually the main healer and the WHM is the offhealer. With noct stance, I think you have more healing potency.

[HyoMinPark]

She was a bad co-healer for sure but typically, I've always been told if it's a WHM and Noct AST, the Noct AST is usually the main healer and the WHM is the offhealer. With noct stance, I think you have more healing potency.

After the buff Nocturnal Sect got, yes, I do believe they are more potent than a WHM. However, I think both healers should try to pull their weight, finding some balance between healing and DPSing. If there was a bunch of AOE damage going out, it shouldn't be that hard for a WHM to drop cleric and cast, at the least, Medica II. I can cast my shields to negate some further incoming damage while they cast Medica II for a small burst heal, and some passive heals over time. Working together to heal and contribute DPS is more effective than just forcing one healer to stick to healing because the other can't be arsed to apply simple regens.

I actually had a similar run to Raven's. I was Noct AST and my co-healer was a WHM. Our tank decided to MT and the cohealer couldn't even be bothered to give him a Regen the majority of the run; the regens he got were from a Diurnal AST in another alliance. They never used their AOE heals, and they helped raise maybe once or twice because at one point during Diabolos Hollow, the only people up in our alliance were me, the MT, and the WHM. No LB3 because we had an LB happy melee in the group. So they had to actually help while I kept the MT up with shields and any Boles I could draw/enhance. Worst part, the WHM wasn't really actively DPSing all that much. Their MP stayed pretty full.

I don't mind solo-healing some times, and I can solo heal Dun Scaith with my shields (or regens) any day. But when I'm having to carry the other healer's weight as well, and they can't even be bothered to Regen the MT, it gets a little annoying. If Raven and I weren't on different data centers, I would wonder if we'd gotten the same healer.

I also left that group with one comm. Probably from the tank, and not any of the DPS I had to raise the entire raid (I have never seen people stand in so much crap...one NIN died 10 times throughout the raid, and no, they weren't new).