Forcing players to pay to keep housing is unfair.

[Nyerieri]

I have to agree with the sentiment that the current time is a valid constraint. As Nyerieri stated the auto demolition doesn't actually happen until 45 days of inactivity, for such a constrained market we need limits like that. It would be infuriating to see houses sitting unused for several months.

Thank you for such nice words! Someone who actually reads too! . Thank you, seriously mean it. I don't think (the majority) on this thread realize its 45 days because I keep seeing this 1 month word thrown around about auto demo.

To the guy who asked about the Military: No, I don't feel SE should dedicate anything to that. I think it would be too much hassle for them to even get started with. They would most likely want to verify active military and everything. Also.. what happens if something happens to you? Whether it be injury or anything else, are they supposed to put a shrine with your name in the front yard and just close the house off forever? This system works for the way the housing system currently is. Again though, I do believe STRONGLY that 45 days is way to lax. 25 days of inactivity for FC leader to pass, 30 days for auto demo for both FC and PH would be more fair. (Edit here: This would also be throwing myself into the group who would have to follow this new rule, so don't say I'm only saying this because I do not have a house, I have a FC house, just wanted to say that before someone used it as a counter argument against me. So no, I am not salty / angry / whatever about someone having a house.)

Don't mean to offend anyone in the miltiary; just think that it would be too much hassle that SE wouldn't take on. I think everyone hear realizes other countries besides the US play this game.. they would want the same type of benefit. Not saying its a bad thing; just way to much headache for SE

Edit: Read the last little bit. Housing on here is.. like a living breathing creature. No, not everyone is meant to have one despite popular belief. It's more of a luxury. Also, no one is a special snowflake on any server, and you do not deserve special treatment (again, despite popular belief). They never guaranteed you that you would be able to purchase a house with the subscription. Also.. please remember, if you are one of those "I'm going to be a douche and log on every 44 days cause I'm in love with pixels", just let your house go. You have bigger issues to worry about if you are in love with the pixels. I can tell you, easily, at least 50 houses on Hyperion would open up if people just let the server take them back and collect their gil. Trust me, you'll get over it.

[Minerva-Redwater]

No with todays economy with the housing system if you can't make it for 45 days and don't use your house for 45 days there are other people who can use the house, stop being selfish.

[Klamor]

With my question, I didn't not intend nor imply anything about special treatment to the military members. It was simply a view point of a legitimate player with reasons beyond their control (short of changing careers, which isn't an option) that prevent them from playing the game (not cancelling subscription, just inability to play) for some period of time, periodically. It was an argument from the vantage point of the housing reclamation system shouldn't exist at all, and if there were any reasons that would or could be validated as acceptable for the removal of such a system. And, moreover, it's an argument that the housing system needs a complete demolition and restructuring in its entirety; something I think a vast majority of the players would agree on, those with a house as well as those without.

And to reiterate my statement before; I care nothing about the housing that exists currently in this game.

[Nyerieri]

You forget one thing, your statement can be defeated with one thought. You can entrust a family member with your login info and literally show them how to login and what to do while you are gone. Problem solved, no?

Also; you were asking for special treatment for Military members. You asked for it to be placed on an indefinite hold until you return or the sub is cancelled. Lastly, if you don't care about the housing system in the game, go visit another thread. This thread already had way to many "devil advocates". Especially now that I defeated your defense for 98% of the people it could be applied to (I know, there are people with no one at all). Maybe they have a close friend online.

[Klamor]

You forget one thing, your statement can be defeated with one thought. You can entrust a family member with your login info and literally show them how to login and what to do while you are gone. Problem solved, no?

Also; you were asking for special treatment for Military members. You asked for it to be placed on an indefinite hold until you return or the sub is cancelled. Lastly, if you don't care about the housing system in the game, go visit another thread. This thread already had way to many "devil advocates". Especially now that I defeated your defense for 98% of the people it could be applied to (I know, there are people with no one at all). Maybe they have a close friend online.

3.1 Sharing Account Information. You may not share your account or login information (such as your Square Enix ID and password) with anyone except your legal guardian, your minor child, or Square Enix. You are responsible for maintaining the confidentiality of your account and login information, even from your friends and family. If you violate this provision, you may unexpectedly lose access to your account to a third party without recourse against Square Enix. Square Enix will not be obliged to credit your Square Enix Account with Crysta or other points or awards, which may have been used by a third party as a result of the violation of this clause.

[CookieMonsta]

So due to me going on holiday this month money is tight and I decided I would take a break from FF for a short time plus there's little for me left to do in game. I am not aloud to do this though without losing my house that I have invested millions of Gil into.

With the way housing is implemented in this game, you are practically owning a piece of the server and a persistent part of the performance. So you can think of the payment as upkeep to help ensure the server is operational. In this sense, I think its quite fair to need a sub to retain your house, SE is quite literally keeping its position + contents maintained and rendered at all times for all to see.

[VeliusVire]

[/B]. If you violate this provision, you may unexpectedly lose access to your account to a third party without recourse against Square Enix. Square Enix will not be obliged to credit your Square Enix Account with Crysta or other points or awards, which may have been used by a third party as a result of the violation of this clause.

If you read the rest of that term, it's pretty much saying 'If you lose your account to anyone because you gave away your information, Square Enix cannot be held accountable'. They're not saying 'If you give your information we'll ban your ass'. Y'know, cherry picking and all that...it's really dumb when the answer is /right there/.

[joshdavis271]

3.1 clause basically says they are not responsible for loss of your account if you give your password to people, it is not bannable, at the same time you lose the account to a stranger then you are screwed.

[Klamor]

If you read the rest of that term, it's pretty much saying 'If you lose your account to anyone because you gave away your information, Square Enix cannot be held accountable'. They're not saying 'If you give your information we'll ban your ass'. Y'know, cherry picking and all that...it's really dumb when the answer is /right there/.

Not really cherry picking. It's still listed under the Prohibited Activities, regardless of what the actual outcome of said activity is. And based on the paragraph above it, they're basically saying "we'll ban your ass". I didn't know people would actually be so chafed for just asking a simple question. I even got told to go to a different thread. Really? That's hilarious.

It sounds like the ones without houses are so upset about not having one, that they don't care what the reason is for a person being away from the game. They want what you have, and there's nothing that will appease them to let you keep it. I find that hilarious.

[Kosmos992k]

You have to manually enter the house to turn the demolition off. As far as I know when you logout in your house the instance closes and that's why you end up outside when you log back in.

The interior is instances, the exterior is integrated into the actual housing zone and it maintained continually live - which is one of the reasons for the limitation on housing, and also why you need to activel use your house once every 44 days. Maintaining your house exterior is actually part of the running costs of the game. It's not ideal, but it does create persisten neighborhoods.