Quote Originally Posted by Bourne_Endeavor View Post
Do this and you effectively guarantee people lose incentive significantly earlier. Why keep raiding for 6+ months when you can be bis within the first four weeks. Less if you're a better player.
For a few maybe but I don't think it'd be that many people. look at the primals if you so desired you could have every drop from an ex primal in the first day. yet you still see dozens of parties for them in the party finder months after there release..

also lockouts tend to kill incentives as well... for the most part once my tomes are capped or my expert is done and ive got any weekly loots. that's it i'm done. there's no incentive to do anything else...

Quote Originally Posted by Inosaska View Post
People don't want to work for gear. They want it given to them for little effort.
I'm of the opinion that it isn't that people don't want to work for gear that's the problem.
it's more that people don't want to see there efforts wasted next month....

it's something that comes up a lot on the forums. especially with regards to things like savage. loads of players don't do it simply because the rewards for clearing it will be trash next month and thus any effort they did or would put in to getting it is ultimately wasted.

players did midas savage got 240 gears. second 3.4 dropped many of em crafted straight into 250 before even setting foot in creator savage. so what was the 240 good for really.. wasn't good for midas cos by time you got it you'd already beaten it. wasn't creator because a lot of it was replaced with 250 as soon as 3.4 landed...

I think it's easy to understand why players don't want to work for gear when it ultimately has no value at all. and that's why players will put in massively more effort into getting a piece for glamor than they will about getting a piece for upgrade.....