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    Quote Originally Posted by Katana190 View Post
    Unfortunately it isn't high on their priority list
    I still don't get how it can NOT be high on their priority list. A better glamour system has got to be one of if not THE number one requested feature. This one single thing would honestly ensure my subscription for... probably forever.

    I prefer WildStar's system to GW2's though. Don't like the cash shop tokens. xD

    Quote Originally Posted by Enur View Post
    This may sound very cynical, but i have a suspicion this is not high on their priority list, despite most competitors offering similar deals, because unlike games like WoW and Gw2 the only way we have to increase our bagslots given by the game is to rent it for real money.
    Right on the money, probably. Literally.

    I officially ran out of retainer space a couple weeks ago. SE will get NO extra money from me, however. Not being able to store glamour pieces simply makes quitting more appealing, to be honest.

    Inventory expansion in Stormblood will do nothing to fix this.
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    Last edited by Naunet; 04-09-2017 at 02:39 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Naunet View Post
    I still don't get how it can NOT be high on their priority list. A better glamour system has got to be one of if not THE number one requested feature. This one single thing would honestly ensure my subscription for... probably forever.

    I prefer WildStar's system to GW2's though. Don't like the cash shop tokens. xD
    How bout just copying WoW's system then? You get a piece and can spend ingame currency to apply it. You can save your own premade "sets" for easy access when you get new gear that need glamour.
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    :3 There is a thread here http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...Glamour-log%21

    But I want to show my support here too! I suggest everyone pour some love over there too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Enur View Post
    How bout just copying WoW's system then? You get a piece and can spend ingame currency to apply it. You can save your own premade "sets" for easy access when you get new gear that need glamour.
    I like how I can save multiple sets at a time in WildStar and swap between them whenever I want without visiting an NPC (and as the outfit is separate from gear, you don't have to go updating it whenever you get an upgrade). While WoW's system is okay, it's got the hassle of having to visit an NPC and may really kind of stupid amounts of gold every time you want to change something.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arutan View Post
    That's like the most stupid sh*t I ever heard of. Not running old content for glamour? For what then? Except glamour old content are useless because they have no clue about how to make durable content. Yoshida is dasppointing me more everyday.
    Yep... I found the quote too. And the article, other thread helped me find it

    USgamer: Has there been any thought about ways to make older gear usable to players in some fashion, outside of glamour? Things are always moving forward, leaving players with reams of gear in their banks for glamour sets alone.

    Yoshida: Not really. If we were to do something like that in order to accommodate for older gear, people might go back to older content. Content that they had played over and over again, just so that they could obtain gear was the dropped in those areas. We want to avoid having people going back to older content.

    Source: http://www.usgamer.net/articles/fina...lood-expansion
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    Last edited by Katana190; 04-09-2017 at 03:32 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Katana190 View Post
    Yep... I found the quote too. And the article, other thread helped me find it

    USgamer: Has there been any thought about ways to make older gear usable to players in some fashion, outside of glamour? Things are always moving forward, leaving players with reams of gear in their banks for glamour sets alone.

    Yoshida: Not really. If we were to do something like that in order to accommodate for older gear, people might go back to older content. Content that they had played over and over again, just so that they could obtain gear was the dropped in those areas. We want to avoid having people going back to older content.

    Source: http://www.usgamer.net/articles/fina...lood-expansion
    Ahaha, yeah there was another thread where we discus that because it felt like it wasn't understood, translated, or said properly because it's really a "Waaaaat?" moment.

    My personal guess is that he meant to say at this moment with all the new content and drive to get everyone to play the /expansion/ content that he doesn't want to encourage people to play old content - yet. It's not that he never sees value in it but at this moment they want people to enjoy the expansion specifically, because of course that'd also mean more money to SE :P. This then means that a log would not be raised in priority at all until the expansion has had time to settle a little.

    People may suggest the log is an expansion exclusive feature, and that may work, but I'm unsure how people would react to that. It might feel like if they had said "we're going to rebalance Paladin now, but only for the owners of the expansion any one else will be using the old Paladin which will be less desirable after our changes, please look forward to it!". So I imagine the glamour log would have to be a non-expansion specific content, which means it won't specifically promote the expansion and will promote doing old content more than new, because new content would already have a reason to do (story/progression, old content lost reasons but you just gave it new ones).

    Anyway, that's my attempt to make sense of the non-sense xD.
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    Last edited by Shougun; 04-09-2017 at 06:50 AM.

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    The question isnt for glamour items, but making gear from older content relevent for progression. if they did that, people would just go back and farm easy shit they kbow how to do to get gear as good as current raid gear. That was the meaning behind that question and answer.

    Note "is there any intention to make gear from older content relevent other than for glamour." not gear from older content isnt relevant for glamour.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    Note "is there any intention to make gear from older content relevent other than for glamour." not gear from older content isnt relevant for glamour.
    Oh yeah definitely but I think a key in a few people's response, at least mine is that he says "We want to avoid having people going back to older content." and that we have relics.

    Which to me meant he wasn't looking to promote old content as a whole, making it relate to glamour as well. (and that the key is he is talking in context of the expansion, because clearly they've promoted old content before)
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    Let's be realistic here. So long as people continue to pay for extra retainers, they will never make a glamour log. There's no incentive for them, as a company.
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