Quote Originally Posted by Ultimatecalibur View Post
Actually it does considering that most of the currently extraneous crossclass skills are getting removed.
That's not confirmed. We don't yet know how many cross-class skills previously available to tanks will remain afterwards, whatever their categorical name. Moving Rampart or Shadowskin, each a job-unique animation and name for a dual-job skill, to a "role" skill does trade out a would-be cross-class slot on all three tanks for new job-unique skills on two. However,

Quote Originally Posted by Ultimatecalibur View Post
Please do nor confuse Rampart/Shadowskin moving to the cross role list with loss of job individuality. This move is moving the "Must have abilities" (i.e. the abilities that SE needs every member of that role to have in order for them to be viable in content) which Paladin, Dark Knight and Warrior already have from the job list to the cross role list.

There is no need to add job specific effects to the skills.
1. Rampart is clearly not a "must-have" ability if the widely viable tank hasn't needed it. Similarly, forcing it upon Warriors as a role-based skill only means that their current CD set would need to be rebalanced, likely towards even further homogenization. Which begs the question, why would you want to homogenize any part of such a crucial arsenal component. Provoke I can understand, lest SE is willing to create three different versions that wouldn't serve only to debalance tanks further, but Rampart? If anything, Shadowskin should simply be revised to be a bit more unique in the first place.

2. Unless their are distinct job effects on the role-skills, it is a loss of job individuality. It might not be a net loss, but it is nonetheless a loss of an aesthetically fitting name and animation for either of the two jobs sharing the skill effect. But, unless the replacing skill provides more to the job aesthetic than the one being replaced (which just as easily could retain a job-specific name and animation, thereby avoiding this whole compromise), that's a net loss, too.