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    Quote Originally Posted by MistakeNot View Post
    I'd say both the Hall of the Novice, and the lvl 10 GLD quest both give a decent introduction to tanking. Even in the early dungeons I don't think I have seen any tank who does not have at least some clue on how to play it.
    Well, Hall of the Novice is optional and not everyone starts with GLD, though I'm sure the early MRD quests touch on the subject in some way. I've run into a few MRDs who didn't even know they were a tank when they queued up for Sastasha, and I can honestly say I didn't really know either when I randomly started leveling it three years ago. Thing is though, even if you know what you're supposed to do it very often ends with Overpowering/Flashing yourself dry of resources just to keep up with the aggro output of the DPS players. It shouldn't have to be that way in the very first dungeon that people tank.

    At this point I'm a WAR main who's been tanking for years, but even I struggle to keep up with my BLM girlfriend when we end up in Halatali for our leveling roulette. Imagine someone in much worse gear, no experience and with zero crossclass skills in the same situation.
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    Last edited by seekified; 04-07-2017 at 06:50 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by seekified View Post
    Well, Hall of the Novice is optional and not everyone starts with GLD, though I'm sure the early MRD quests touch on the subject in some way.
    It is not optional. As a new GLD I had to go through 5 levels of tank specific training at novice hall to do my first dungeon, which is part of MSQ.
    MRDs have to do the same.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IntrovertAnt View Post
    It is not optional. As a new GLD I had to go through 5 levels of tank specific training at novice hall to do my first dungeon, which is part of MSQ.
    MRDs have to do the same.
    This is good to know, actually. HoN is alright, for the tanksm uts a little stranger for the other two roles. Tanks are still really squishy in this game though, surprisingly squishy
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    Quote Originally Posted by IntrovertAnt View Post
    It is not optional. As a new GLD I had to go through 5 levels of tank specific training at novice hall to do my first dungeon, which is part of MSQ.
    MRDs have to do the same.
    Interesting. The MSQ It's Probably Pirates only says to visit the Hall outside Aleport, not to actually complete any of the training. I'm fairly sure my girlfriend didn't have to do it when she started playing this past summer, though she did it later on anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by seekified View Post
    Well, Hall of the Novice is optional and not everyone starts with GLD, though I'm sure the early MRD quests touch on the subject in some way.
    Actually they don't. The MRD quests have surprisingly little to do with tanking as such.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MistakeNot View Post
    Actually they don't. The MRD quests have surprisingly little to do with tanking as such.
    i remember how i tried to tank in the solo instances from the MRD quests. the healer was unable to heal me and i died. so i had to let the healer tank to finish the fights...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tint View Post
    i remember how i tried to tank in the solo instances from the MRD quests. the healer was unable to heal me and i died. so i had to let the healer tank to finish the fights...
    going back to arr main quest and even alot of the hw ones where i switched to dps accessories, trying to tank in those instances is suicide. period. Thats another thing that could be improved in general, over time with story mode if it sort of let you do your intended thing and built the party around working with it, not forcing you to be a dps which you find out youre not exactly that much of one. Theres 2 quests in particular in arr was a level 30 ish one about heretics and the dude becoms a dragon. dont bother tanking it. Then theres charibert, forget that fight in hw as a tank, just take off tank stance and dps it as much as your fingers will allow/

    both gld and mrd quests do a very poor job of even allowing you to learn your role, at least since after beta they loosened up on some of the rediculous damage you would get from doing those at level. This isnt really that huge of a deal when it comes to dedicated tanking, but early on they do about everything in their power to teach you how not to tank, youll lose quite a few if you dont kill mobs fast
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