Please increase crystal sand amounts

[kattzkitti]

Nothing stopping folks from leveling crafting / gathering jobs

Most people have no interest in it, or don't have the time to devote to getting them leveled due to busy real world schedules or whatever the reason may be. This is something that game devs really need to start taking into account, as the vast majority of gamers nowadays are casual players who can only hop on for a short time in a given session. This is also why the F2P industry exists, and why it is so lucrative.

As for making Gil, crafting has been the ONLY gil drain for me. I don't see how people make gil off of crafting.

They make money off it because the stuff you can make at max level sells for millions per item (mostly because there's very little competition due to again, the majority of players not leveling the professions). Also, most crafters level gathering professions alongside them which makes the leveling process essentially free (and thus essentially pure profit from the sale of high level items).

[Stitches1974]

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I see you left off the part where I specifically said I HATE crafting. That means I don't like it and have 0 interest. When I was crafting, I spent 1 hour or less doing the daily allotment of 12 quests. Really not much time spent on leveling them, especially when you have a good amount of leves saved up. It even makes it easier, then you have GC turn ins. Even if you only level 1 crafting and 1 gathering job, it still does not take long to do at all. I mainly grabbed the quests, started a que for an instance, and worked on stuff while waiting for a que to pop.

Have you ever tried to sell a higher end crafting made item? It normally sits there for weeks before someone buys it and then you have to deal with someone undercutting you every 30 minutes. ( My personal experience and for my server. I understand it will vary. ) That alone makes it really not worth it.

EDIT: Eventually, you'll want most/ all DoH jobs at 50 for cross skills, but really only 1 job needed at 60 for the Zhloe turn-ins.

[kattzkitti]

I see you left off the part where I specifically said I HATE crafting. That means I don't like it and have 0 interest.

I left it off because it is nonsensical. If you had no interest in crafting/gathering, you by definition would not have leveled it.

[Stitches1974]

I left it off because it is nonsensical. If you had no interest in crafting/gathering, you by definition would not have leveled it.

Means to an end. If I wanted my Anima, I needed to craft. Nothing nonsensical about that. Yes, I actually had to look that up.

non·sen·si·cal
ˌnänˈsensək(ə)l/
adjective
1.
having no meaning; making no sense.


noun: means to an end
1.
a thing that is not valued or important in itself but is useful in achieving an aim.

[alimdia]

Most people have no interest in it, or don't have the time to devote to getting them leveled due to busy real world schedules or whatever the reason may be. This is something that game devs really need to start taking into account, as the vast majority of gamers nowadays are casual players who can only hop on for a short time in a given session. This is also why the F2P industry exists, and why it is so lucrative.

No offense but that is a lot of excuses, the person you're replying to is already telling you maxing out crafters and gatherers can be done with very little time spent per day over many weeks/months, so the whole busy schedule thing is just a bad excuse.

You just don't want to do it, and that's perfectly fine, but you don't get to ask for similar benefits as those who put the time and effort into maxing them.

I still remember when the very first relic, it is very easy to obtain with minimum grinding needed

There's something you're leaving out there, you had to beat content that was very difficult for the majority, I talk about Titan HM, Titan was no joke when people didn't overgear him.

Titan HM was the reason why they changed relic design, they went from "something you have to do difficult content to achieve" to "something you have to spend a lot of time to achieve, but content is faceroll easy", also after titan hm every hm trial became faceroll.

[Misutoraru]

Titan HM was the reason why they changed relic design, they went from "something you have to do difficult content to achieve" to "something you have to spend a lot of time to achieve, but content is faceroll easy", also after titan hm every hm trial became faceroll.

i was wearing Darklight set when fighting Titan HM we did wipe a few times, but i feel it is actually easier than the extreme primal we have in HM

[RenAshdoll]

i was wearing Darklight set when fighting Titan HM we did wipe a few times, but i feel it is actually easier than the extreme primal we have in HM

Everyone was wearing mostly Darklight back in 2.0 for the Titan fight and the fight was hard due to the cascading damages, player competency (when I was in Adamantoise, getting to heart phase is a miracle) and the latency issues that forces some players to move ahead of what was displayed.

Well.... it is a hard mode fight, it will definitely be easier than the extreme primals

[Misutoraru]

Everyone was wearing mostly Darklight back in 2.0 for the Titan fight and the fight was hard due to the cascading damages, player competency (when I was in Adamantoise, getting to heart phase is a miracle) and the latency issues that forces some players to move ahead of what was displayed.

Well.... it is a hard mode fight, it will definitely be easier than the extreme primals

it is weird, when HW arrive, the HM primal in HW feel nothing like ARR HM Primal
but I would still prefer doing primal HM for relic, at least it is not repetitive content grind

[Ama_Hamada]

Most people have no interest in it, or don't have the time to devote to getting them leveled due to busy real world schedules or whatever the reason may be. This is something that game devs really need to start taking intoaccount, as the vast majority of gamers nowadays are casual players who can only hop on for a short time in a given session. This is also why the F2P industry exists, and why it is so lucrative.


They make money off it because the stuff you can make at max level sells for millions per item (mostly because there's very little competition due to again, the majority of players not leveling the professions). Also, most crafters level gathering professions alongside them which makes the leveling process essentially free (and thus essentially pure profit from the sale of high level items).

That is not what i seen. At moggles I found lots of people with max melds that I never seen a single item listed under their name. Based on seeing that and what my friend says, the low items for sale has nothing to do with players not leveling them. People do not make stuff because they do not need gil. Only a few people keep crafting just for the sake of having tons of gil even though there is nothing to do with it. gil being worthless is why the count of items to sell is so low, not the lack of people leveling crafting and gathering.

This game hands you exp, gil, and levels like I never seen (leves, gc turn in's, etc) and yet people still insist on trying to make crafting more worthless then it is currently, it is mind boggling.

[SilkaN]

I am working on my second Anima at the moment and this time I used ALL the options to get Crystal Sand.
Vilekin, Moonstones, Crafter Tokens, Tomestone Items etc
Farmed Umbrites while leveling Summoner and surprise surprise, I went from iLevel 200 to iLevel 260 in less than an hour.
The amount of Crystal Sand you get is absolutely fine, as long as you know what you are doing.