Why Can't WHM Have An Enmity Lowering Stance?

[Neela]

Just like how DPs are using Quelling Strikes at the beginning of their opener, you use SoS depending on your enmity bar.

...never see randoms with QS but a lot of e-penis dds like "HA! FIRST on Enmity!!11 HA DMG" - especially Brds... which is kinda ironic cause they don't even need a xskill for that... but most likely it's a Brd who pulled first or will take the aggro in the opener ^^ (that's why I stopped Lightfarming after the 3rd Anima... can't stand these idiots... who can't give the tank 2 secs for his aggro-rota - its just massiv bullshit if every 2-3 run the opener-pull is messed up by a range-dd...)

[CafPow]

@neela
Well... every guide says thet the first hit has to land with the first hit from the tank cause DPS!!!
Which is bullshit when you're not progressing but ppl read this and think "akai"

Every guide!
Of every class!

[Canadane]

...never see randoms with QS but a lot of e-penis dds like "HA! FIRST on Enmity!!11 HA DMG" - especially Brds... which is kinda ironic cause they don't even need a xskill for that... but most likely it's a Brd who pulled first or will take the aggro in the opener ^^ (that's why I stopped Lightfarming after the 3rd Anima... can't stand these idiots... who can't give the tank 2 secs for his aggro-rota - its just massiv bullshit if every 2-3 run the opener-pull is messed up by a range-dd...)

As a tank I'm 100% fine with someone else pulling. Just means we clear it faster. It's not like I wouldn't do my job and take the mobs, letting the dps die.

[Neela]

As a tank I'm 100% fine with someone else pulling. Just means we clear it faster. It's not like I wouldn't do my job and take the mobs, letting the dps die.

well having Faust in your grp for the first few seconds doesn't mean you will clear it faster - especially if the tank has problems to get Fausts ass of the Brds one without screaming ; ) Running in a grp for several hours where either the tank didn't solve his enmity loss in the beginning nor the Brd was empathy enough to wait with or reduce his opener (QS) was just a nightmare - giving the solo healer a hard night ^^'

[technole]

Yeah since Creator Savage has been unlocked, I've even ripped off easy aggro just blasting Stone III on A9S Faust Z because of subpar DPS, add-in being a BiS WHM vs crappy Kinna weapon, non-melded tanks. This stuff didn't happen when it was on lockout because you had people who actually know how to pull correctly.

Even with good shroud use you'll sometimes get greedy tanks dropping tank stances and/or aggro combos when they don't have Ninja Shadewalker support on a pull so they don't start off with a large amount of threat, think it's cool to drop tank stance right away, but didn't bother to build it up enough with combos to keep threat. Add-in subpar DPS, you will quickly move to #1 on the threat.

You'll even see this in 24-man Dun Scaiths with tanks that don't know how to pull worth their life.

[Neela]

Yeah since Creator Savage has been unlocked, I've even ripped off easy aggro just blasting Stone III on A9S Faust Z because of subpar DPS, add-in being a BiS WHM vs crappy Kinna weapon, non-melded tanks. This stuff didn't happen when it was on lockout because you had people who actually know how to pull correctly.

Even with good shroud use you'll sometimes get greedy tanks dropping tank stances and/or aggro combos when they don't have Ninja Shadewalker support on a pull so they don't start off with a large amount of threat, think it's cool to drop tank stance right away, but didn't bother to build it up enough with combos to keep threat. Add-in subpar DPS, you will quickly move to #1 on the threat.

You'll even see this in 24-man Dun Scaiths with tanks that don't know how to pull worth their life.

exactly this ^