Why are bad hunt behavior rewarded?

[Kosmos992k]

Damn you guys are so selfish.

Why? Hunts are first come first served content, it's really easy to understand this. The first group capable of killing the mark, can kill he mark if they want to. You have no entitlement at all to that mark if you're not there, or don't join in when it is attacked. The only selfishness is the one demanding that others delay their play to enable more free seals for low effort players.

[JunseiKei]

Unless you have any kind of solid proof that this is something being done as griefing or some other violation to the terms of use laid out by Square Enix, there is nothing that warrants disciplinary action. As it is, hunts and other open world content is first come, first serve as stated by Square Enix. Even if "early pulling" is purposely being done against a person(s), if the content is open world, it still falls under first come, first serve and there may not be any grounds for griefing in the first place.

Even then, if you have proof that should warrant an investigation, the forums is not your go-to platform unless you're simply here to stir up trouble. Customer service or contacting a GM ingame is where you should be.

Advice: since they seem to be getting a kick out of generating salt, spread the word to cut back on sodium intake levels and stay hydrated. Usually, once people notice their tactics aren't as effective, they get bored and move on.

/post falls on deaf ears

[AlexanderThorolund]

Ok so what you are missing here is that they don't even wait. They see a mob, they kill it. Just because it's fun for them to see the salt in shout.

What do you want?

Your whole thread just comes across as whining.

Set out what it is you want to change in a clear statement and send it to Square in an email.

This isn't the place for it.

[Naunet]

For what it's worth, OP, I agree with you. I think that's a really rude thing to do.

Just because something is "allowed" doesn't mean it's right.

[Settiesama]

How selfish of you to expect us to give up our time waiting 10 minutes for people in other zones to arrive on the scene and yell at us to wait for more. We definitely don't have anything else to get on with do we.

Edit: When exactly do you want the boss pulled? When you get there? When the entire server gets there? When just enough people are there that everyone only gets to attack once and gets no credit at all because it's dead?

[Kriegsgott]

How selfish of you to expect us to give up our time waiting 10 minutes for people in other zones to arrive on the scene and yell at us to wait for more. We definitely don't have anything else to get on with do we.

Edit: When exactly do you want the boss pulled? When you get there? When the entire server gets there? When just enough people are there that everyone only gets to attack once and gets no credit at all because it's dead?

exactly you always will get the wait 1 min more bs anyways since i dont care anymore i get way more hunts in way less time but to keep it fair people can always join my Hunting LS but if you dont go out hunting you shouldn except much there at this way i keep the Leechers away which annoyd me too ever had to reinvite the same person over 8 times a day in less then 2h ? another annoying point (atleast in my opinion)

[Bloody]

Lol @ Entire Thread.

Okay, so, first things first. Yes, it is rude to pull hunts as soon as you find them, but it is perfectly acceptable. Why? Because waiting to start any open-world content like hunts is a community created norm. Open-world content in any game has always been fair game with first come, first served. Because of the limited availability of hunt mobs, people who are more community-minded than individualist give others time to make it to the mob before they kill it. That's perfectly fine, and it's their choice of playstyle, just like those who pull as they find them. It's literally differing playstyles/opinions, just because it is generally considered rude doesn't make it bad behavior.

On the other hand: Specifically pulling immediately, or taking a mob and resetting it, for the purpose of "shits'n'giggles" as I call it (aka, salty chat, trolling, or similar behavioral reasons), is not only a no-go for the community at large, but also to my knowledge violates griefing policy. Get your screenshots, get it dealt with, and find a good hunt LS to help you make it to the hunts before the trolls get there. A good hunt LS is your best weapon to combat them.

[Derio]

Hunts are first come first serve. And it sounds like a world issue. I know famfrit had a similar problem until it got so bad everyone shunned that FC which forces their FC to leave the world due to their FC being on everyones blacklist.

[Settiesama]

Why exactly is it a 'problem'? The problem lies with people expecting the finders to waste their time waiting for people not even actively hunting, or in other zones at the time. For all we know, the group the OP is talking about are just pulling to save time to move onto the next Hunt, and the whole 'troll' debates in the shouts are probably just them laughing at the salt of those who only just entered the zone, crying out in shouts at how 'unfair' it was because they were doing other things.

[Ilan]

Ok so what you are missing here is that they don't even wait. They see a mob, they kill it. Just because it's fun for them to see the salt in shout.

You don't have to wait. You don't have to post the Mob either. If people do that its a friendly gesture nothing more because hunts are not designed to be a mass event. The only rude thing i see is that people demand that the finders have to wait at least 5-10 minutes until everyone arrives at this spot.