Stop Making Should-Be Achievement Gear.."Optional Gear"

[Kyuuen]

You missed the point by quite a bit. Comparing subscription based services to entry + actual, physical unrelated items is comparing apples to oranges. No, I do not consider in game items additional products. I do, however, consider the OST, plushies, tickets to fanfests and so on additional products.

Then that's a matter of opinion vs. opinion. Gear designed specifically for story NPC's is just that. Gear designed for that characters model and size. Having to adjust said outfit/s to fit other races and all of their adjustable heights takes time. Therefore it can be seen as an additional product/s.

[Nora_of_Mira]

No, I do not consider in game items additional products. I do, however, consider the OST, plushies, tickets to fanfests and so on additional products.

but they're not in-game items if you can't get them in-game.

[Alerion]

Kind of a bad example, as netflix has tiers of subscriptions. The basic plan will not get you everything, if you want full access to their library, you gotta pay the extra fee for their dvd service :P

Final Fantasy XIV also has tiers of subscriptions.



The Netflix basic plan will get you 1 screen, lower quality resolution but full access. For two completely different services, they are pretty even actually.

[Alerion]

but they're not in-game items if you can't get them in-game.

Cute, but "in-game" means usable in the game. Good post though.

[Rokke]

The Netflix basic plan will get you 1 screen, lower quality resolution but full access. For two completely different services, they are pretty even actually.

My edit included the plan I meant -

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actually, Netflix is a great example. They used to include everything in their sub fee, but once the powers that be realized the profit in splitting the two services, they removed features from the basic plan. You want streaming? $7.99. You want access to the DVD library? + $5.99

the base price for streaming is 7.99. It used to include dvds. They axed that feature years ago and now charge an extra fee if you want both. If you search for something and it says something along the lines of "this is not included in the streaming service", you'll have to pay an extra fee to get access to their DVD library. You do not get access to everything under the basic streaming plan anymore.

[spf1200]

I agree with you OP but sadly most of the community at this point does not. Many people that are playing this game are used to microtranactions in games and don't remember the days when paying for a game got you everything. And since the sheep continue to pay for these items and insult those of use that complain about them there is no reason for SE to stop.

[Alerion]

My edit included the plan I meant -

I understand what you're getting at. While I don't care for that much either, I am inclined to still disagree on the heart of the issue as there goes that whole physical tangible item thing again. You get complete access to the streaming library with a basic plan.

People have been convinced it's a good thing to get charged extra for intangibles you're already paying for, but I'm not sure I can ever agree with that especially when it was not always that way. We know it's based on greed yet we still support it. When you're being sold literal colors and still like what you're being fed, what more can be said? I'm just glad nothing on the store appeals to me personally.

[Reaperking386]

I agree with you OP but sadly most of the community at this point does not. Many people that are playing this game are used to microtranactions in games and don't remember the days when paying for a game got you everything. And since the sheep continue to pay for these items and insult those of use that complain about them there is no reason for SE to stop.

You are literally insulting us right now you hypocrite and every time someone brings up anything with the cash shop the wave of people who dislike the cash shop come over to spread their distaste. Further note games back in the day didn't have Cash shops because the current idea of a modern cash shop was not invented yet and it was not possible to implement it due to technology limitations.

[SenorPatty]

I agree with you OP but sadly most of the community at this point does not. Many people that are playing this game are used to microtranactions in games and don't remember the days when paying for a game got you everything. And since the sheep continue to pay for these items and insult those of use that complain about them there is no reason for SE to stop.

I'd rather be a content sheep than a pigeon who gets his feathers ruffled over optional items of all things

[Talraen]

I agree with you OP but sadly most of the community at this point does not. Many people that are playing this game are used to microtranactions in games and don't remember the days when paying for a game got you everything. And since the sheep continue to pay for these items and insult those of use that complain about them there is no reason for SE to stop.

As long as we sheep pay for these items, the game makes more revenue and it doesn't cost you anything. You're welcome.