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    Quote Originally Posted by Owl_Hawk View Post
    I totally understand your point and the effort needed to make these items...but isnt that the point of items? You are paying a sub for content of all sorts...if people have to grind these out...they will continue to sub as they need TIME to get these things ontop of the other things such as relics or whatever. I am just saying they are making enough money as it is...and will CONTINUE to make money if people are re-subbing that next month in order to get a certain item they really like....Almeric is part of Heavensward...so are the Knights of the Round...it just seems wrong that they would put this behind a cash barrier instead of making an event or achievement out of it like they did for FF13 Lightning...and ya..if you miss a limited time only item...put it on sale for those who joined game late...Cash for that is acceptable..but not new content...that is just allowing them to rip us off...we are paying them for new stuff not paying them to make stuff which we need to then pay more for ontop of our sub..this is wrong on their part...and I hope many support this thread in order to grab their attention. Or else the next thing is...Pay for raids...Pay for Optional Dungeons...Pay for Blitzball...It won't stop
    Our subs pay for only so much. Server hosting and maintenance, employee salaries, expansion development, voice actor salaries, model artists, music writers, music performers, and the list goes on. That stuff in the Mogstation? That's EXTRA. That's stuff that costs SE above and beyond our subs which is why it would never be made in the first place if it couldn't be sold in the Mogstation. Also keep in mind that SE is a business. They aren't looking to "break even" they are looking to make a profit. If a business is not profitable investors pull out. Profit is necessary to the survival of a business. Just look what happened to a game like City of Heroes. It was profitable... but not profitable enough to stop NC Soft from shutting it down and investing those resources elsewhere.

    And not for nothing, who are you to say "they are making enough money"? You don't know anything about the finances and costs of things relating to the development of this MMO. Don't make assumptions about something when you have little to no information regarding the details.

    The Aymeric outfit would never have been available AT ALL if it couldn't be sold. I don't know how many ways to say that. It took time and resources to make it wearable by the various player races and yes selling a few will recoup that investment and anything beyond that is profit... but so what? SE making more from our game just proves to SE and to investors that FFXIV is a valuable property and worth maintaining and continuing to invest in for development. No one is getting ripped off. You aren't losing something because it was put in the shop, because if it wasn't in the shop it wouldn't be available at all.

    Unless you have experience running an MMO, you likely have no idea what the MONTHLY expenses for maintaining our servers are. I can tell you this from personal experience... hosting a small game server (maybe 200-400 players) for development project costs us over 1,200$ a month. This isn't top tier service, but its also not trying to rely on cloud servers (which might work for bootleg private servers but won't for any real project). FFXIV monthly costs are probably hundreds of times that.

    Now my project is microscopic compared to an MMO like FFXIV. The amount of players they have to be able to accommodate, the amount of employees they have to pay to keep things maintained, the scope is staggering in comparison. And that's just monthly maintenance costs. Development costs are a whole other ball of wax. As I said before, unless you have experience in MMO development of a scope similar to FFXIV or WOW, you almost certainly don't have any idea of the costs involved.
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    Last edited by Nicodemus_Mercy; 03-30-2017 at 12:37 PM.
    How many men am I involved with? Well that depends... do you mean men as in males? Or just midlanders?

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