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[Nuru]

I just can't imagine how PS3 users will get to benefit from custom UI at all. What SE should do is make it where you'd have to submit a UI first, and then they can approve it and make it available for download through PSN and PC for others to use. I'm not sure how else this would work out for PS3 users.

[Shipp]

I just can't imagine how PS3 users will get to benefit from custom UI at all. What SE should do is make it where you'd have to submit a UI first, and then they can approve it and make it available for download through PSN and PC for others to use. I'm not sure how else this would work out for PS3 users.

PS3 users will have the controller UI which will probably be similar to XI or how XIV is now. There's not point in putting the PC UI on the PS3 because very few PS3 users will be using a KB/mouse, which is what the PC UI will be developed around, even from 3rd party addons by players.

[Nuru]

PS3 users will have the controller UI which will probably be similar to XI or how XIV is now. There's not point in putting the PC UI on the PS3 because very few PS3 users will be using a KB/mouse, which is what the PC UI will be developed around, even from 3rd party addons by players.

Even so, you do make sense when you say that most PS3 users will be playing with a controller, but there will also be many that will be using a USB keyboard. Though, that is not even the point of what I was saying. I am more concerned about how PS3 users won't be able to benefit from custom UIs. Whether they are for aesthetics or for lolhax.

Also, if you think about it. What if end game content had parties that required their members to have certain mods? PS3 users would be at a disability, perhaps rendering them from experience such hardcore content.

[Shipp]

Even so, you do make sense when you say that most PS3 users will be playing with a controller, but there will also be many that will be using a USB keyboard. Though, that is not even the point of what I was saying. I am more concerned about how PS3 users won't be able to benefit from custom UIs. Whether they are for aesthetics or for lolhax.

Also, if you think about it. What if end game content had parties that required their members to have certain mods? PS3 users would be at a disability, perhaps rendering them from experience such hardcore content.

I played XI with a controller and a keyboard. I also play WoW with a KB/Mouse. Unless SE allows users to keybind, PS3 users with a keyboard would benefit more from the standard UI than a mouse combo. Custom UIs are useless without a mouse (which many PS3 users won't use) or the ability to keybind stuff to their own liking (which I highly doubt SE even has the foresight to think of).

You're also assuming there will be all kinds of addons. As another person already stated, it will likely be only addons for the actual UI, not addons that work off the coding of the game like a lot of WoW's addons. I highly doubt SE would be dumb enough to allow PC users access to addons that show boss moves like DBM in WoW or damage meters, unless they separate PS3 and PC users onto different servers.

[Nuru]

You're also assuming there will be all kinds of addons. As another person already stated, it will likely be only addons for the actual UI, not addons that work off the coding of the game like a lot of WoW's addons. I highly doubt SE would be dumb enough to allow PC users access to addons that show boss moves like DBM in WoW or damage meters, unless they separate PS3 and PC users onto different servers.

That is what I am concerned about. If the UI Customization is only for the aesthetics, then I don't think that will become much of a problem. If it is used for the coding aspects, then something is seriously wrong. :P

[Payadopa]

That is what I am concerned about. If the UI Customization is only for the aesthetics, then I don't think that will become much of a problem. If it is used for the coding aspects, then something is seriously wrong. :P

I agree. UI customisation in essence is a good thing, but not, if it's being abused by showing informations that others can't/shouldn't see. Say what you want about the 'need' to see certain things on the UI for the raid's sake. If you can't beat a dungeon without it, then it's either the developer or you/ your party, who's at fault.

I also don't understand the need of knowing literally everything about every single 100111100100 in the coding of MMOs. But then again, I'm just a mid-core gamer, as Yoshi put it.

Oh, well. That's just my personal opinion, which is as valid as anyone's.

[Zenaku]

I agree. UI customisation in essence is a good thing, but not, if it's being abused by showing informations that others can't/shouldn't see. Say what you want about the 'need' to see certain things on the UI for the raid's sake. If you can't beat a dungeon without it, then it's either the developer or you/ your party, who's at fault.

I also don't understand the need of knowing literally everything about every single 100111100100 in the coding of MMOs. But then again, I'm just a mid-core gamer, as Yoshi put it.

Oh, well. That's just my personal opinion, which is as valid as anyone's.

Casual and hardcore use addon but that not the point i still don't understand why people can't be a tank or a healer without a pop or sound saying someone else have hate i could understand in wow where there lot's of people around while fighting and it get crazy but in FFXIV i think it would never be needed only if your lazy and can't play a mmo without addon.

I know myself wont be using any addon maybe the one i like from ffxi windower display how much EXP i'm getting. The only reason i hate addons is in wow to do anything like raids they make you download addon A,B,C / D to even do there events i hope that never happen in ffxiv if it does then w/e i play my way and learn how to play the game without using addon i did it in wow and in ffxi i can do it in ffxiv.

[Zion_Cross]

I just can't imagine how PS3 users will get to benefit from custom UI at all. What SE should do is make it where you'd have to submit a UI first, and then they can approve it and make it available for download through PSN and PC for others to use. I'm not sure how else this would work out for PS3 users.

I HIGHLY doubt they'll allow any sort of add-ons for the ps3. They're making two different UI's for that specific reason.