The new concept screenshot is a real-time in-game render!

[Wynn]

I guess I'll just enjoy getting good at the game without information in 10 windows on my screen.

I'll just be sure to tell everyone that I have the add-ons installed <_<

^This

loladdons

I miss the days when gamers were good and didn't just think that they were.

[Zenaku]

Partying with a lot of players and most of them are WoW players they can't heal they don't know where to stand it sad that you need addon just to even play a game. Healers would stand there 5mins and then cure when someone is dead pretty much. Or if anything they would curega for Lols o.O this is the issue with Addon it make players lazy and they can't play a game without something telling you what to do.

But w/e if people want addon then w/e but at the end that type of addon is what i dislike. I had a wow friend come over he play wow for 4+years and he had to download all the addon he used just to play with me it's sound how he can't play without addon.

I understand addon like ArkInventory,Carbonite but addon that tell you how to play your class is where i say No thanks. But whatever it better having someone play with addon and do there dam job then having someone not heal you because they don't know how to play i guess that the good part of it all lol.

[Shipp]

Partying with a lot of players and most of them are WoW players they can't heal they don't know where to stand it sad that you need addon just to even play a game. Healers would stand there 5mins and then cure when someone is dead pretty much. Or if anything they would curega for Lols o.O this is the issue with Addon it make players lazy and they can't play a game without something telling you what to do.

But w/e if people want addon then w/e but at the end that type of addon is what i dislike. I had a wow friend come over he play wow for 4+years and he had to download all the addon he used just to play with me it's sound how he can't play without addon.

I understand addon like ArkInventory,Carbonite but addon that tell you how to play your class is where i say No thanks. But whatever it better having someone play with addon and do there dam job then having someone not heal you because they don't know how to play i guess that the good part of it all lol.

And tell me what these addons are that will tell a 100% new player what button to hit, what spell to cast, etc. I'd really like to hear it. You can keep repeating yourself over and over after every post explaining how you're wrong, it doesn't change the fact that you're still wrong.

[Tiraelina]

Go to http://www.curse.com/ i sure you find a lot that tell you what Spell to use next and what to do next i'm sure you find a few or maybe more. Stop saying i'm wrong when a lot of people feel the same way you like addon? that fine but it's not needed not that type of addon -.-

and i am going to go on repeating to other understand that addon in that way should not be allow i can care less about the others like the few i said.

All I'm seeing is someone that doesn't know what everyone else is talking about and trying to fit in. Healing addons consist of Grid/Clique combined with mouseover cast macros that every game should have. The only thing you are doing is complaining bad players are bad and trying to tag the issue onto WoW.

[Shipp]

All I'm seeing is someone that doesn't know what everyone else is talking about and trying to fit in. Healing addons consist of Grid/Clique combined with mouseover cast macros that every game should have. The only thing you are doing is complaining bad players are bad and trying to tag the issue onto WoW.

This. Zen, if you cannot tell me which addon you are referring to, then I'm calling your bluff and stating that you don't know what you're talking about. If these adds that play the game for someone are so rampant in WoW then you should have no problem telling me which addons they are. You aren't doing that, because you're full of crap.

[Aradon]

Personally I rather dislike add-ons that give too much gameplay signals. I only really want things for damage feedback and probably something like DBM for awareness just because it smooths out gameplay and cuts down on extra Vent noise. Shortcut/macro add-ons are nice, but not really necessary. I think they're worth the potential damage to allow shortcut usage in add-ons, but I would heavily argue that they're definitely not enough to bar all add-ons period. I think the gist of everything I've said to this point can be summed up in this opinion:

The damage done by imbalance from add-ons is far outweighed by the extreme value of instant feedback from damage meters and other resources offered by add-ons. The number of players who misuse add-ons and fail to learn their class ought to be smaller than those who learn/understand their class better due to improved feedback and UIs.


I think there are some legitimate concerns about balancing, and I'm sure add-ons will be misused, but the overall impact of the game should be positive, and for those players who opt for heavy add-on usage as a preference, an overwhelming positive.

(For what it's worth, WoW currently tells you when to cast many spells that are buffed from procs naturally, without add-ons. It's all "fingers of frost! gogo ice lance!" and then you get to decide whether the program's right or not. I just thought that'd be of interest here.)

[Shipp]

(For what it's worth, WoW currently tells you when to cast many spells that are buffed from procs naturally, without add-ons. It's all "fingers of frost! gogo ice lance!" and then you get to decide whether the program's right or not. I just thought that'd be of interest here.)

Darn. I was waiting for Zen to post a picture of WoW's built in HUD showing a FoF proc so I could explain that it is not even an add-on. It would be nice for Ele Shamans to get this like most other classes, especially for when Lava Surge procs. But oh well, it's not annoying to either use DoT timers and watch for the reset, watch for the text to scroll across SCT, or watch the hotbar to see I can cast it again. /ohnoeslazyplayer

[Skirata]

Hello everyone!

Thank you all for posting your views on this here. However it does appear that this thread has gone very much off topic. And we will be closing it at this time. And please do remember that it is still inappropriate to talk here about Third Party Programs, even for other games. Thanks again and take care.