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    Vidu Moriquendi
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    Odin
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    Bard Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Ama_Hamada View Post
    No, it is there to give people an alternative to get a weapon, the EXP is supposed to be just a side bonus, not greif people out of getting silvers. You are just trying to promote toxicity and it offends me. If 4/4 do not agree to speed run, you do not speedrun, you cannot greif by majority. At some point you need x amount of arm and armor to even to be able to function on the higher floors. Just because you are not new, does not give you a right to greif new people and making them speed run with you not helping and afking at gate.
    Seeing how many other alternatives we have for weapons in this game (some are being better than either type of PotD-weapon; just to mention a few examples here: ilvl230 bought with tomes+midas drops, relic, pvp-weapons, drops from several ex-primals, shire weapons, crafted weapons, raid drops) I dont agree with your statment that the main objective of PotD is to get a weapon. Seeing the weapon as a side effect of this content is as valid as seeing exp as a side effect. Or seeing the loot as a side effect - one could even argue here that some loot is exclusive to PotD so that has to be the most important thing (and in conclusion a party has to search every pixel of the screen for hidden treasures and open every gold chest for pomanders). Same goes for shards.

    One reason to run PotD isnt more valid or important than another one, therefor its up to the party to choose how thy want to play - and why do I have to repeat this so often?

    Just because YOU think that one part of the content is more important than others doesnt make it true and it doesnt make people toxic to disagree with you and tell you that they'd like to play differently.

    To everyone pulling the "but we have to help new people"-cards: I generally agree with you that everyone should try to make the experience of this game as pleasent as possible for everyone. But that does not mean that we always have to sacrfice our intrests for a newbie. Their goal doesnt become more important than ours just because they're new. Is it nice to help a fellow player out? It certainly is. But its nothing anyone has to do - and choosing not to help isnt flate out rude. No one has to help anyone and I dont think that SE needs to force us in any way to do that - besides from not knowing how that would even be possible I can only see it leading to more problems...

    Quote Originally Posted by BigRed5392 View Post
    I see a lot of people don't get how potd seems to work, fresh players do need silver chests to move on, and the aether gear is how you attack. Screwing ppl outa chests just makes a person weaker. And you need to hit certain caps to move up each floor.

    Als not all roles can solo the boss floors easily in low spec gear due to lack of silver chests, and your stuff isn't saved till you beat the boss floor.
    I fully understand how PotD works - but as I already said: Its very nice to help a fellow player, but its not rude to prioritize your own intrests and say "No, sorry, I dont want to go after silver chests, I rather progress quicker" - if the majority of the party agrees with that thats sad for the one person who would have liked to get chests. Maybe they'll have more luck the next run - when there are three people who want chests and one person with 99/99 who tages along this time even if they'd prefered to go faster.
    Thats DF for you - sometimes you win, sometimes you lose. If you want to make sure it always goes your way: make a preformed party. Otherwise be preprade to go for a compromisse or be overruled because your intrest isnt shared by the rest of your team - And thats okay! Those random strangers do not owe you anything!
    Again: Its nice when they go out of their way - but its totally okay and "neutral" if they dont, not toxic. It doesnt make them horrible people, it makes them people who have their own intrests.
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    Last edited by Vidu; 03-28-2017 at 11:01 AM.