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  1. #1691
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sontawila View Post
    This needs more clarifications. For instance, how much ATK+ do you gain with each +1 STR? How much Accuracy with each +1 DEX?
    Ehh you can test this is if it's same as FFXI - it was 2 STR = 1 Attack, for FFXIV they might give out that info since YoshiP wants to have all information laid out for new MMORPG players but imo that was one of the fun parts to discover these stuff... either way they might give the info for the players. We'll see.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reinheart View Post
    Ehh you can test this is if it's same as FFXI - it was 2 STR = 1 Attack, for FFXIV they might give out that info since YoshiP wants to have all information laid out for new MMORPG players but imo that was one of the fun parts to discover these stuff... either way they might give the info for the players. We'll see.
    It is not the same STR does not affect attack, so I think people would like to know how the damage formula works. Where does STR (or attack for that matter) play into the formula?

    From his interviews this was the kind of thing he wanted to be open about because players simply can't "figure it out" without extensive parsing with different setups (Which SE doesn't even approve of anyways). People are spending money on materia and stuff, I think they should at least get a hint at what these stats do so they can prioritize better.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Murugan View Post
    It is not the same STR does not affect attack, so I think people would like to know how the damage formula works. Where does STR (or attack for that matter) play into the formula?
    STR does help atk it does not boost your max atk but helps your low end atk.

    Example: You are hitting ifrit for 20-50 dmg more str will make it so you do 40-50 thus increasing your overall atk
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    Quote Originally Posted by Firon View Post
    STR does help atk it does not boost your max atk but helps your low end atk.

    Example: You are hitting ifrit for 20-50 dmg more str will make it so you do 40-50 thus increasing your overall atk
    You are talking about damage not attack, I was responding to Reinhart's comparison to XI. STR does not = a certain amount of attack they come into play at different points in the damage calculation. Without parsing nothing you just said can be backed up, so it would be nice for SE to weigh in a bit and give us a hint.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Murugan View Post
    You are talking about damage not attack, I was responding to Reinhart's comparison to XI. STR does not = a certain amount of attack they come into play at different points in the damage calculation. Without parsing nothing you just said can be backed up, so it would be nice for SE to weigh in a bit and give us a hint.
    Someone already did a test on this in another thread and increasing your low end atk is in fact raising atk.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Firon View Post
    Someone already did a test on this in another thread and increasing your low end atk is in fact raising atk.....
    Attack power is a stat.

    Damage is... well how much damage you do.

    They are different things...

    edit: never mind obviously there is an issue with English not being your first language so you are not understanding me...
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    Last edited by Murugan; 10-22-2011 at 06:23 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Murugan View Post
    Attack power is a stat.

    Damage is... well how much damage you do.

    They are different things...

    edit: never mind obviously there is an issue with English not being your first language so you are not understanding me...
    Well if you can't understand I'm sorry. You have 2 attack stats one increases High end attack which is the attack stat like from Materia like 20+ attack. All strength does is make your it so your low end attack damage rises.

    You keep saying not damage, but the attack(+20 attack) stat does the same thing increases damage.

    20+ attack makes your normals do 30-70 damage per attack. Then you add more strength then you over all attack does 50-70. If you can't understand that then I'm sorry again.
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    what you're saying is Attack boost overall damage where STR boost damage mitigation.
    Any link on the test you're talking about ?
    Does it was test(ed?) to be the same with VIT/defense ?
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    Friday is always a slow day... not much Rep responses since YoshiP @ Germany right now.
    Man... wish I could of been there with BG guys to do that translation lol

    bored.... http://lodestone.finalfantasyxiv.com...entry?e=260539
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    Quote Originally Posted by Firon View Post
    Well if you can't understand I'm sorry. You have 2 attack stats one increases High end attack which is the attack stat like from Materia like 20+ attack. All strength does is make your it so your low end attack damage rises.

    You keep saying not damage, but the attack(+20 attack) stat does the same thing increases damage.

    20+ attack makes your normals do 30-70 damage per attack. Then you add more strength then you over all attack does 50-70. If you can't understand that then I'm sorry again.
    This has been debunked and STR most definitely adds to your maximum damage. We really have no idea how exactly the stats work, though based on brief tests ATK seems to cap out against excessively low level enemies.
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