Why are summoners so neglected?

[RLofOBFL]

I'm pretty sure this falls under "balancing" issues.

Also summons do not have 1 attack. They have 5 each. So your comparison to BLM doesn't work well.

I do think they could add OGCDs that just summon something to attack as your own attack though. Like "Zantestuken", potency of 300 etc etc.

[Bourne_Endeavor]

I do think they could add OGCDs that just summon something to attack as your own attack though. Like "Zantestuken", potency of 300 etc etc.

I think they would be a great compromise. From a lore perspective, you could simply handwave it as Summoners borrowing a small portion of power to make the equivalent Hell Fire, Diamond Dust or something.

[Ririta]

Also summons do not have 1 attack. They have 5 each. So your comparison to BLM doesn't work well.

Only the level 20 and level 40 ones are unique, and of those, only the level 40 ones matters; so that's the only one that needs to be balanced (why the heck is Contagion still tied to Garuda instead of the summoner themselves?)

[xxvaynxx]

(why the heck is Contagion still tied to Garuda instead of the summoner themselves?)

This right here.
If it wasn't for contagion I would use ifrit (unless there's a bard) more and to be honest, they SHOULD do this if they thinking about adding more pets, because come on really? extending your DoT timer on a DoT job locked to one pet...So they either need to give it to summoner itself or to all Pets.
If they don't, garuda will always be the best pet to use in Raids and EX Primals due to contagion.

[NaesakiAshwell]

This right here.
If it wasn't for contagion I would use ifrit (unless there's a bard) more and to be honest, they SHOULD do this if they thinking about adding more pets, because come on really? extending your DoT timer on a DoT job locked to one pet...So they either need to give it to summoner itself or to all Pets.
If they don't, garuda will always be the best pet to use in Raids and EX Primals due to contagion.

I'd honestly prefer contagion as a spell to use myself so I could cycle the summons more, and also a lot of the time you really have to click contagion several times before Garuda will actually do it.

[Rysir]

I'd honestly prefer contagion as a spell to use myself so I could cycle the summons more, and also a lot of the time you really have to click contagion several times before Garuda will actually do it.

This x1000, and the molasses reaction time garuda is a distance problem that if garuda is even an inch too far it will very slowly move into range then very slowly stop and THEN use it.

[Stitches1974]

This x1000, and the molasses reaction time garuda is a distance problem that if garuda is even an inch too far it will very slowly move into range then very slowly stop and THEN use it.

I have to click contagion 5-6 times before it's cast VIA pet. That's 2-3 spell casts wasted currently. If I could cast it myself, I wouldn't have that time wasted.

[Rysir]

I have to click contagion 5-6 times before it's cast VIA pet. That's 2-3 spell casts wasted currently. If I could cast it myself, I wouldn't have that time wasted.

Yeah, theres been an uncountable amount times I hit raging strikes,tri disaster and then look like a jackass standing around for 3-5 seconds because garuda is feeling lazy. Contagion would be more consistently activated if it was a summoner ability.

[Inosaska]

This right here.
If it wasn't for contagion I would use ifrit (unless there's a bard) more and to be honest, they SHOULD do this if they thinking about adding more pets, because come on really? extending your DoT timer on a DoT job locked to one pet...So they either need to give it to summoner itself or to all Pets.
If they don't, garuda will always be the best pet to use in Raids and EX Primals due to contagion.

I really hope with the combat review of abilities that this problem gets fixed. It's not much of a summoner job if you're really only using one pet lol

[Kaethra]

I'm pretty sure this falls under "balancing" issues.

Its actually pretty easy.

Take Ifrit Egi and its skills and copy them. Then make a Shiva Egi with unique animations. Give it the skills stat-wise copied from Ifrit and replace fire aspected damage with ice.

Do the same thing with Garuda and Ramuh.
Then again with Titan and whomever we want with the tanking pet.

That's 3 new pets right there, no balance issue (I seriously doubt you can prove ice, lightning, ect aspected damage can push the balance). And all for the work of adding in a simple 3d model for the new pet and some particle effects. Yet you have a VERY happy Summoner playerbase.

Heck they could go further and add in ALL abilities to all pets depending on what 'stance' the pet is in. So you could have Garuda Tank, or Shiva ranged DPS. Then the summoner could simply use the pet they want to in the role they need at the time. Many MMOs have already done this.

The pet is a glorified dot. But its a visual effect the player likes to show. It should be treated as such. Simple changes that make many happy and do not upset balance at all.