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    Quote Originally Posted by KokonoeAiyoko View Post
    Oh, look. Another poor comparison!
    Oh look, another post that is devoid of common sense or prior reading of anything that I have said on the subject (it only takes looking back a page or two).

    Quote Originally Posted by KokonoeAiyoko View Post
    Comparing a move you toggle every now and then that is essentially part of the DPS aspect of a DPS job, or just something you click for free off GCD, or a stance that doesn't really hinder you all too much vs Cleric Stance which hinders you quite a bit and comparing it to constantly doing DPS over and over and over until the monster is dead. Even if you compare that your DPS gets nerfed with BRD, it still isn't anywhere near as bad as healer literally swapping their INT and MND and a healer having to keep everyone alive whilst managing this mechanic.
    Actually, it is worse for BRD. Cleric stance's drawbacks can be mitigated through proper preparation: using adlo, then rouse, swapping into cleric stance, throwing up DoTs and shadowflare, then going back out of cleric stance is good DPS for not much healing loss, and you would only ever do this if the healing requirement is low, meaning nothing at all is lost. The difference is that there is a cap on how much healing should be done. If everyones HP is full then any extra healing is a waste. There is no cap on DPS meaning that any amount of time spent playing paeon or ballad is a DPS loss for the BRD, and there is no mitigation for this at all.

    Let me ask you, if healer DPS and cleric stance should not exist, then A) what the hell are you doing when you don't need to heal? and B) What would you change the system to, because removing it would make healers both overpowered, and more dull to play for many people who are serious about the role.

    Quote Originally Posted by KokonoeAiyoko View Post
    Also, I don't think I've ever seen someone whine about a NIN not using Shadewalker because most people do not care or cannot notice if they have it ready or not.
    I don't think I've ever seen a NIN protest when asked to use shadewalker, or goad. It seems to be only healers that complain when asked to use their full toolkit (oh, except for BRDs that refuse to sing, but they get the same lecture, and honestly are just bad players)
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    Last edited by Lambdafish; 03-22-2017 at 05:36 PM.

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