Umbrites are terrible.

[Nixxe]

Actually the umbrite piece is the easy one. compared to rune grind. , Spoiler alert Next phase after clusters you will be grinding, Rune light and if your not doing savage constantly , get ready for a real patience tester. Also IF your doing another relic save your umbrites and sand to around 70. You will get more bonus if you trade them all at once after the first 40 umbrites. 60-70 usually what you need. I've yet to go over 70.

Yeah, I guess I'm not entirely sure how that step works other than go places, kill stuff and eventually it's done. I know there are like shifting bonuses and stuff like the original light form (or at least I'm pretty sure there are, but since people call them both light farms idk), but I don't even know if aside from that the amount you get is fixed per content or random. I think people said A1S is the common farm for it though and that's so obsolete I might just do that, provided pugging it is reasonably painless. I guess when I said I had no intention of doing savage earlier, I meant no intention of doing it while current. With only a 190 required, I imagine it's not too bad. Sophia ex wasn't even bad and that was much more recent.

[Elim]

Because public forums are known for sweeping, inclusive and overnight changes for the better.

Hmmm I agree that it wouldn't happen overnight, but I do think it would of changed over time if it was a big deal for most people.

[Greedalox]

Hmmm I agree that it wouldn't happen overnight, but I do think it would of changed over time if it was a big deal for most people.

Remember that all it takes is 1 person to start a new thread for thousands to see. "Most people" is irrelevant.

[Mycow8me]

If you are a crafter the crystal sands are very easy to come by. You can grind blue scrips and sell a few of what you make to retain no loss. The umbrites were annoying to me as well. This step is the reason I will not be doing 2 or more just like the books step on the 2.0 relics are the reason I did not do a second one.

They need to look at these 2 relics and find out what worked and what didn't unless they are putting in 1 ridiculously long step for each x.0 relic weapon to keep them very rare. If that's the case then I hate them for it.