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  1. #61
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    LordPhantomhive's Avatar
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    Nyvina Virian
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    Midgardsormr
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    Summoner Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Canadane View Post
    I'm in the opposite camp, where I want to see more job splits on the same classes.
    I'd like to see this with ninja. I would have loved for rogue to be either Ninja or Thief.
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  2. #62
    Quote Originally Posted by matteoxyz View Post
    The only part that bothers me is the bonus point thing. I cannot understand why they have not fixed it so you can play both jobs...
    you can play both jobs, i do.
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  3. #63
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    Ama_Hamada's Avatar
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    Ama Hamada
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    Balmung
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    Arcanist Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Jerbob View Post
    SCH can get its healing tools are a more appropriate level, if this is deemed necessary. Then the work on a new SMN can begin, fans of the old one keep ACN, and everyone is happy.
    ACN can be its own class, SCh should be its own class, and SMN should be its own class.

    What we have now is a mistake based off the outdated 1.0 stuff that DOES NOT WORK!!!<<<< for this version of the game.
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  4. #64
    Quote Originally Posted by Ama_Hamada View Post
    What we have now is a mistake based off the outdated 1.0 stuff that DOES NOT WORK!!!<<<< for this version of the game.
    you have not answered my question about which part does not work because of Heavensward?
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  5. #65
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    DaikiKiyoshi's Avatar
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    Daiki Kiyoshi
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    Leviathan
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    Black Mage Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Ama_Hamada View Post
    ACN can be its own class, SCh should be its own class, and SMN should be its own class.

    What we have now is a mistake based off the outdated 1.0 stuff that DOES NOT WORK!!!<<<< for this version of the game.

    They are "working" just fine. Just not in the way that some people would like. It's certainly not a mistake.
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  6. #66
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    Ririta's Avatar
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    Ririta Rita
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    Behemoth
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    Thaumaturge Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by LordPhantomhive View Post
    I'd like to see this with ninja. I would have loved for rogue to be either Ninja or Thief.
    I wish archer could split into ranger for those of us who likes bows but don't want to support and cast bars.
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  7. #67
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    Silverquick's Avatar
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    Silverquick Fox
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    Gilgamesh
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    Summoner Lv 90
    Ok sooo....

    I finally decided to weigh in on this... and after wondering what the fuss was about I thought I'd go ahead and unlock SCH as a second half to my SMN. I definitely prefer the SMN as I like that job much more... but as I thought about it... I decided perhaps it would be a good idea to have a healer job to support my FC if necessary. I had planned on originally starting a DRK after going the SMN and BLM route.... because honestly I do like DRKs. It's an Aesthetics thing about them that I like.

    I never would have even bothered with doing a healer job as its generally not my thing and I tend to only do it as backup when its needed. Or like Raising people with SMN when I have to. Its great to have as a backup skill... but I really didn't want to play one...

    BUT... the game now makes it easy for an actual DPS player who doesn't really like the healer side... but... if they like casters... they can easily unlock a healer class now just as a backup at the same level as their primary..... even if it wasn't something they wanted to play.

    In my case I was more thinking about how I could assist my FC members when the problem isn't a shortage of DPSers.... but rather they need a tank or healer to join a very tough instance or dungeon in order to get them through it.

    Well... I now understand the wisdom in the Dev's idea of keeping Arcanist as the base class and splitting SMN and SCH as alternate jobs from the Base class of Arcanist but keeping them leveled togather....

    I don't and never intend to make healer a primary job at all... but... I do see the merits of being able to switch over to a healer job at any given time to assist someone else like someone in your FC when a healer is needed rather than a DPS.... Yeah I don't care really that my MIND is lower than if I'd have gone full blown SCH... because I only intend it as a temporary thing for when its needed.

    But poof... now in one shot... I can switch from my normal SMN job... to SCH job in a pinch and be that versatile with one single step. And it doesn't play that terribly differently than I'm already used to... the Pet handles most things, and I can still keep at least a partial rotation that I kept with SMN, even though its about half the strength of what my SMN side can do.

    In one small adjustment, I become a healer when I never would have considered any kind of step like that before...

    I wonder how many other people the Devs suckered into playing a healer by giving them a pet that does most of the job... and then keeping most their previous favorite character intact... And then filling up the queue with healers.... of which there is a shortage of...

    So... when looked at in that light... I now understand the wisdom behind the decision... and why they should not change it... they accomplished their mission in one fell swoop with a really good sucker play.

    And honestly... the quest for the SCH is SOooo much easier than the SMN quest to do so its barely even an inconvenience to you just to unlock the thing and instantly have it at your current level.

    Devs create more healers... and do it with a minimum of inconvenience to someone who never would have bothered doing it in the first place...
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