Split SCH and SMN already! The poblems are just going to keep increasing!!!

[Ama_Hamada]

You don't have Leeches because you have Eos. You don't need Leeches at that level.

cutters cry is 38 so you are wrong, do that at 38 sch and tell me how well that works out for you.

This is clearly an oversight because of an outdated system that had no business in being in 2.0+

[Connor]

This isn't ever going to happen. I agree that Scholar/Summoner might benefit from being split, but the developer team will likely never have the 'resources' to do that.


Think about it this way:
It took them an entire expansion to create two new jobs.
Splitting Summoner / Scholar would mean both jobs would have to be re-done from the ground-up for programming reasons.
This means that not only would Scholar and Summoner have to be removed from the game for an entire expansion, but said expansion would also have no resources left to create any new jobs.
The developers will never prioritize old jobs over new ones because new ones are going to get the most new players

[Faliandra]

It really isnt such a big deal you make it out to be? I never had actual ISSUES in low lvl dungeons due to not having leeches.
Sure would be nice to have, but calling it a nightmare is...a little over the top.

But I would appreciate if stat points could be distributed separately.
I do tend to play SCH more than SMN, so my SCH gets the MND points. My SMN still does PLENTY of dps. So I dont even bother swapping stats there ( I do not raid savage with those anyway).

So, really, I'm not opposed to the split at all. But you make it sound like its an urgency, which its not.

A friend of mine and I did the math awhile back. Being full int in scholar only shaves off roughly 50ish HP per heal from you and it doesn't affect eos/selene at all since they scale with gear and not mind, so constantly switching back and forth is really just and OCD thing more than necessity. We also tested it ourselves. It was back in 2.x so the drop off may be closer to 75ish but that's still negligible.

No. It does shave off a good bit of healing. Like several hundreds at least. I made the change a few months ago.
So considering a SCH should go for crit (because crit shields are awesome), it can shave off around 1k+ from your crit heals, which should happen fairly often with a decent amount of crit. I definitely noticed the difference. ;/

Also, as for the fairy, I do not wanna argue about what its heal potency is based off because I'm really not into the deep maths of theorycrafting, but TO ME it seemed like her healing did profit from the extra MND points too.

I let Eos heal every baby level dungeon with no issues. So I'm not wrong. You have other tools from Eos you should be using for specific attacks in fights. Pay attention more and you will notice that.

this.

[bass9020]

cutters cry is 38 so you are wrong, do that at 38 sch and tell me how well that works out for you.

This is clearly an oversight because of an outdated system that had no business in being in 2.0+

I let Eos heal every baby level dungeon with no issues. So no don't accuse me of being wrong. You have other tools from Eos you should be using for specific attacks in fights. Pay attention more and you will notice that.

[Bourne_Endeavor]

I actually wouldn't be entirely surprised if Scholar or Summoner is made a separate job for 4.0. They have spoken numerous times how difficult it is to balance the two and with their mention of wanting to look at Scholar, it seems possible.

[NaesakiAshwell]

Regardless of what people think of low level scholar healing, we all have our own opinions on the matter. (please lets not let this thread devolve into that argument, especially if people are just gonna spout "I'm not wrong" mentality)

I think in terms of the future going forward it would be more beneficial if SE does find a way to separate the two jobs.

[bass9020]

Regardless of what people think of low level scholar healing, we all have our own opinions on the matter. (please lets not let the thread devolve into that argument, especially with people spouting "I'm not wrong" mentality)

Tell that to the person who specifically said I was wrong. But thats ok because I'm attacking them they are ok to say what they want, usually how it goes on this forum.

[NaesakiAshwell]

Tell that to the person who specifically said I was wrong. But thats ok because I'm attacking them, usually how it goes on this forum.

You aren't attacking anyone? All I'm saying is lets just drop this particular argument here before it starts getting out of hand :/

[DamianFatale]

Adding more explanation marks doesn't make your topic any more important. It's unnecessary.

[Ama_Hamada]

I let Eos heal every baby level dungeon with no issues. So no don't accuse me of being wrong. You have other tools from Eos you should be using for specific attacks in fights. Pay attention more and you will notice that.

You are 60, do it at 38 at level, your not healing that on eos alone.

Problem with the people replying here is they forget what it is like being at level to things. Level sync/ gear sync makes you OP as hell.

Leeches should be 15, I do not know why it isn't and blindly accepting things for how they are are not helping matters.