Let's talk about Diadem mechanics

[alimdia]

Didn't yoshi say fates hve nothing to do with em

[NarikoStar]

Eval is party based as totals will increment together. 3 parties just doing main objectives would net only 600 to 900 eval to the total. 9 parties only doing mission objectives is 2700 per 9 party wave. It would take around 4 waves to hit a 10k eval target.
AFKers are possibly being covered by the parties that grind out ~1.2k and only see the EM because they stayed through the 60 min term rather than jumping every 30 min.

I mean that's saying the Evaluation theory is even a thing- Which I still have my disbelieves about by I digress......

Didn't yoshi say fates hve nothing to do with em

I attended the PAX East panel personally- He said "Don't kill yourself over grinding Fates it will pop eventually..." So I think that neither confirms or denies it

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[Remedi]

To be fair he said fates but anything in diadem gives evaluation so that's extremely vague

[astronym]

brachi spawns atnight also. just popped it at 8 pm eorzean after killing pre cursor fate

[NarikoStar]

Just wanted to bump this up again in case anyone else has seen some more information.

I myself had the chance to get into more Emergency Missions and just a whole lot more Diadem in general waiting around watching weather patterns etc. While most was AFK there were a decent amounts of times I couldn't get 8 people who wanted to sit around waiting with me so I just hoped in Duty Finder.

With the additional Hyperelectricities and diadems I've been able to experience....

I HAVE YET TO SEE:

• Hyperelectricity respawn within the last 90~100 minutes of the last hydroelectricity spawn occurrence in instance.

I HAVE ALWAYS SEEN:

• Hyperelectricity spawn within 120 minutes of the same instance.

****Like clockwork got in my 8th back to back instance. No pop. Some specifics of the instance.

>>Entered Diadem
>>Shouted for last known Hyperelectricity occurance
>>Got a shout back from someone who claimed to have been in the instance for 7 mins had not seen it.
>>Waited around, party did mission objectives to complete and get loot/lore we had a rating in the 300~400s? (bare minimum)
>>Exited at 60mins
>>Took about 10 mins to reenter... So I GUESS it could always have been spawned during this period but I find it unlikly
>>Reentered and saw same person who was shouting in my previous instance shouting again. (Maybe they had exited as well? but highly doubtful)
>>Assumed same instance. They also mentioned -someone- had shouted 60mins since last hyperelectricity (I always shout this at end of instance so assumed they were talking about me)
>>Waited 60mins.
>>Was AFK party so while our 1st Mission was complete our Evaluation % and Mission Objectives were not complete.
>>No hyperelectricity over the coarse of 120mins~140mins

UNLESS it spawned during my 10min~15min exit OR we perhaps both got assigned a new instance with similar players who exited Diadem prematurely while they were present in last instance.
I find the above scenarios unlikely but its always a possibility~ Currently, I'm marking this occurrence as disproving the 120min max theory but keeping it my book as still a highly likely chance to see weather occur once past the 100 min since last occurred instance. Or perhaps there IS an evaluation tied with it. I have no idea what evaluation the other parties present had but I saw shouts for Fate trains and boss fates so I just -assumed- that sort of farming was going on in our instance. There was additionally parties AFKing as well.

In occurrences where someone in the instance can provide me with information with the last known Hyperelectricity (If it is 60~80mins prior) because someone kindly reported it before they left the instance. I have again ALWAYS seen a Hyperelectricity pop within my next 60mins of my instance.

In the same regards, if someone provides me with information letting me know diadem spawned 0~30 minutes PRIOR to me entering a 60 minute diadem. I have NOT seen Hyperelectricity spawn within my full next 60minutes of the diadem. Sometimes I have 0 evaluation. Sometimes I have 600+ in these instances.

Because of this, while total evaluation may be a part of triggering hyperelectricity. I strongly believe there s a "cool down" on when the next Hyperelectricity can spawn again as well as a possible 'maximum' time allotted before it HAS to respawn.

If anyone has evidence proving otherwise I'd love to know, I've done alot of Diadems thus far but I could always be missing data, or data coincidentally favoring a certain outcome for me. So far all my runs have shown these TWO consistencies.

[Bloody]

Just had Embrace the serpent spawn in AM hours Real Time and Eorzea, and Secret of the Lost Legend in PM hours Eorzea.

[Remedi]

What if EM works like S ranks? a mix of time/evaluation?