[suggestion] Old raids/extreme primals roulette

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I alr tried it, but df was faster than pf. thanks though.
And if the roulette has good rewards, it would help I guess. at least better than now, because ppl que it with knowing what they're queing. (mentor roulette has other duties also)

So, what you essiantially want is having competend people who have a good knowledge of the fights to queue for them again, so newbies can clear it in DF...?
I mean, I do see where you're coming from but I also see a lot of issues with that. You pointed out yourself that clearing several fights is very unlikely when there are lots of new people who dont know the fight - a roulette wont fix that either. We also have fairly simple trials and raids and more difficult ones. Clearing T1 or Shiva EX in DF isnt (or at least wasnt) to difficult, even with new people - but compare that to fights like T13 (that kinda requires a certain set-up, or at least used to, when done synched) or Ramuh (a primal that requires great amount of coordination).
I could actually see a LOT of people bailing on the more difficult trials, because a 30 minute lockout will still be shorter than trying T13 with two scholars and three dragoons.

I also dont understand your point about "people knowing what they're queuing for"?
To unlock your mentor roulette you must have cleared all those fights - that would be the same for the EX-trials roulette, I assume? Neither ensures that that person actually knows all the fights inside out - after all they could have cleared them unsyched aswell, so I dont see your point?
Or did you mean that this roulette would make sure that people who are queuing for a fight did their research before? Nah... nah...

I understand that you'd like to do those fights the proper way, but I doubt a roulette will help here. Doing this the proper way means: Learning the fights all over again. Getting your clear with 7 people who know any fight already isnt "clearing it properly" either, its a carry - I dont wanna sound rude but when you say "We cant clear this fight with 4 new people" it sounds a bit as if you were hoping the DF would put you in a party with 7 experienced guys which would make any fight a piece of cake.
Doing those fights "properly" in DF will never be a real thing, I'm afraid - thats what statics are for...

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I understand that you'd like to do those fights the proper way, but I doubt a roulette will help here. Doing this the proper way means: Learning the fights all over again.
Doing those fights "properly" in DF will never be a real thing, I'm afraid - thats what statics are for...

I think what you're saying is right, at least on NA data centre. I was naïve.... I thought roulette would work on NA/JP.
NA/JP players are different in many ways. When I was doing it on JP centre, ex primals' failure rate was low even df. I was like "SE should help new(and old.... not many of them though) players who want to do old raids".
When "I" want to do old raids or old extreme primals, I just queue on JP centre....(queue time is long, but that is what it is) Then, how about new players on NA centre? old players don't care about it much I guess (of course they do not have to), but SE should do... in my opinion.

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I dont wanna sound rude but when you say "We cant clear this fight with 4 new people" it sounds a bit as if you were hoping the DF would put you in a party with 7 experienced guys which would make any fight a piece of cake.

What I meant was not that. I said I am ok with trying many times to failure..... and 7 experienced are not needed anyway. just half would be enough. (I learned it from my experienced friend, he said it is clear-able if half of the party know what to do. and I see it works on JP centre.)

(I like to play on NA centre too..... I didn't mean to blame anyone, if someone feel like that, sorry about it in advance!)

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I also dont understand your point about "people knowing what they're queuing for"?

what I mean is, people are knowing that they're queueing for old ex primals/old raids.
when you do mentor roulette, it includes many other dungeons.... and some expect that they don't come to ex primals.
some people I met on df said, like "you can do it unsynced. why do this synced? (so I am here, via mentor roulette!)"
many people have cleared ex primals unsynched for their wondrous tales, and.... yes I have just heard that mentor roulette is unlocked to trade mentors also. it is not good to new players and trade mentors both..... now I can see why some mentors just left!