Harassing Healers - or: Please allow Parsers

[dragonseth07]

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That's true, but it's hardly if ever that obvious when I'm focused on my own play. When there is no easy "use X ability" or something similar, all I have is seeing this terrible player put out lower numbers than an origami artist with no hands. At that point, there's nothing to say other than "your DPS is low", and the report threats start coming out.

Edit: I will freely admit a lack of ability on my part, in regards to picking apart someone else's play. I need most of my focus for my own.

[Aquaslash]

I have used Damage Dealer's DPS against them when they've accused me of being a 'bad' healer not even that long ago. I didn't need a parser for that. I merely looked at the bosses threat table. A, 2, 3, and 4. As a healer, I should be 4 (if AOEs aren't getting dumb). But there was a dungeon run where a guy died from standing in ground effects and complained that the fight took longer because I didn't Raise them. Raise cost 1500, I had 1200MP when he died (and because of the damage he took from dying).

For the 882,311,528st time AGGRO METERS ARE NOT A GOOD INDICATOR OF INDIVIDUAL DPS. Every DPS that isn't Monk has some form of aggro dump that they SHOULD be using regularly. Furthermore all of the DPS can look "normal" on the aggro meter and still be grossly under-performing for their jobs.

Stop spreading this nonsense about DPS without parsing already!

[KarstenS]

I do have to ask though, are there really that many awful dpsers who explicitely demand the healer to dps?

Simple: Read the other "healer dps" Threads and search the names of the "requesters" on a well known statistics site.

Some time ago I did exactly this, which is the reason for my point of view.

[Silverquick]

Or how about: don't harass anyone, but encourage everyone to play well and effectively and be as good team members as possible.

You know... you should probably just go out and play a DPS yourself... with your mentality... it's probably a better choice for you anyway...

And you'll likely be better than most of the other DPS around you... and you'll probably improve the overall quality of them.

You don't need to pose as a healer just to get queue'd.

[Aquaslash]

As for the topic of parsing, I would merely ask for a scorecard at the end of each instance, similar to what Sonic the Hedgehog games do. It would tally up points you do by various actions, damage as well as show your own damage and give you a letter grade accordingly. Top tier runs get flashy fanfare, and runs where you barely scrape by get disappointed reactions from your PC and desynching music. There would also have to be incentives for getting all top tier ranks in a given area.

You'd be surprised how a simple solution would boost player performance. Anyone who's played Sonic Adventure 2 can vouch for the sheer personal satisfaction of seeing the map filled with A ranks and being able to access Green Hill Zone.

Likewise, to counter harassment, simply make demanding of one's personal scores a bannable offense. They're called personal scores for a reason

[Lilseph]

You know... you should probably just go out and play a DPS yourself... with your mentality... it's probably a better choice for you anyway...

And you'll likely be better than most of the other DPS around you... and you'll probably improve the overall quality of them.

You don't need to pose as a healer just to get queue'd.

What about the people that want to heal AND DPS? Some people want to use their whole toolkit they got with their class. You know... being efficient or they know how their class work. With that being said, I agree with the person you quoted, I don't see anything wrong with encouraging people to perform better.

[Exiled_Tonberry]

It's not harassment asking a healer to contribute a bit to the group when damage is at an all time minimum.
Heck for some healers dpsing actually mitigates dmg, Shadow Flare slows down enemy attack speed and Holy stuns.

SE wouldn't give you DPS spells if they didn't want you to dps. WHM got Aero III, Stone III, Assize. SCH got Broil and an upgraded bane. It's not mandatory, but you should utilize these spells when you can.

Personally, I don't see the fun in jumping around in a dungeon spamming emotes or chatting to your friends when you could be helping. If you have enough time for that, you have enough time to throw some DPS around.

[EdwinLi]

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I can confirm that most DPS people will play with will not use their DPS Buffs such as Blood for Blood, Raging Strike, and Hawk Eye.

Even during most boss fights most DPS will not use the buff skills to boost their damage despite not using them on the trash mobs before boss fights thus all can be used in one go on the boss.

I can understand saving Raging Strike for boss fights as that DPS buff has a very long cooldown being 180 seconds but Hawk Eye and Blood for Blood are more spammable DPS buffs due to 90 and 80 second cooldown.

[SaitoHikari]

I do wonder though, what's the Japanese community's take on parsing?

[EdwinLi]

I do wonder though, what's the Japanese community's take on parsing?

It is just my opinion but I doubt they care much as they have been very effective with their current standards and methods with clearing content. Of course they have different expectation when it involves playing FF14.