The end of Playstation 3 support.

[Kosmos992k]

Sure, let's tell all the people too poor to spend $900 on hardware to leave and go overthrow their governments until their countries become exact clones of the USA and they deserve to play games, because if the game's team is too small to release texture packs now I'm sure losing subscribers will fix that. Plus the PC gamers who leave when their friends do, further draining income.

I'm from a wealthy country and in spite of that PC/PS4 upgrades cost substantially more than the USD prices being thrown around in this thread here. Some people have absolutely no idea how easy they have it. We're not here to pontificate about revolutionising world politics we don't understand from atop our high horses, we're here to try to play a fun game together!

Indeed.

A lot of people (PC gamers) also severely underestimate the cost of building a gaming rig. You can build a minimum viable configuration for a little under $400, but even if you stick to components a couple of years old, you're still going to spend at least $600. To purchase mid range components and a good quality case/PSU you're heading on up to $1000 territory.

While that minimum viable config might run some current games, it won't do so well with games released next year. So I really wish people would stop throwing stupid numbers around ab out the supposedly minimal cost of building your own gaming rig.

A PS4 costs far less to purchase than a basic gaming PC. Prebuilt gaming PCs start in the region of $700, I could have a PS4Pro with PS VR for about the same cost.

Obviously prices will change in other countries, but I believe that the relative costs will stay similar.

[Kaethra]

I'm from a wealthy country and in spite of that PC/PS4 upgrades cost substantially more than the USD prices being thrown around in this thread here. Some people have absolutely no idea how easy they have it. We're not here to pontificate about revolutionising world politics we don't understand from atop our high horses, we're here to try to play a fun game together!

I've given blood sweat and tears for my country to have it as 'easy' as it does. Some in my battalion didn't even make it to a deployment because some crazy 'major' decided to shoot up the SRP center at Ft Hood. So don't lecture me on how I have it 'easy'. I've not suggested anything I haven't done myself. Such as spending hundreds to keep my PC's upgraded just to keep playing the games I've purchased. Or voting every year to make sure nothing stupid creeps in to make things too expensive.

I'm not responsible for keeping someone's hardware up to date. And SE isn't responsible if someone gets left behind after several years.

[Claviusnex]

Those from 'poorer' countries probably need to take another look at their priorities compared to playing video games. Such as taking actions to affect their political situations so they can get rid of tariffs and improve shipping conditions to lower costs.

There are plenty of folks in the US who would find it hard to come up with $900 to upgrade even once. As I said earlier at some point the revenue generated by those older systems, of any type, is not enough to justify support. While this allows the product to be updated to newer standards I empathizes with those that lose the ability to play the game. It is important to keep in mind it is the revenue from all systems that allows SE to develop the product. The less money coming in the less function in the product and the less fun the game will be to play. If the revenue drops enough no more game in which case we all lose.

[Kosmos992k]

I've given blood sweat and tears for my country to have it as 'easy' as it does. Some in my battalion didn't even make it to a deployment because some crazy 'major' decided to shoot up the SRP center at Ft Hood. So don't lecture me on how I have it 'easy'. I've not suggested anything I haven't done myself. Such as spending hundreds to keep my PC's upgraded just to keep playing the games I've purchased. Or voting every year to make sure nothing stupid creeps in to make things too expensive.

No offense, but you might want to try to separate the stress and RL issues that you face from the discussion you're having here. It sounds like you've had to deal with some extremely serious stuff, but your anger is misplaced in this topic. I believe that the poster was comparing the relative ease of life in a developed nation such as the US vs the life in a developing nation with a shaky economy. I don't think they were saying anything that would diminish or demean your service, nor the difficulties that you face as a result of serving as you do.

I can't pretend to know what you've faced, only you can know that. However, I do wish you well.

[Serilda]

I've given blood sweat and tears for my country to have it as 'easy' as it does.

So don't lecture me on how I have it 'easy'.

...are you taking personal responsibility for the current state of the whole of the USA? I was simply upset you effectively said other people who aren't in any position to walk the path you have in life should reconsider playing.

Nobody is saying SE (or you) are responsible for buying everyone new PCs. We're saying that the end of PS3 support is necessary, but it's sad for those still on the platform and that their feelings deserve to be respected. This entire thread was originally an unprovoked attack on their right to play the game; defending your right to be cruel to people you don't know isn't a battle worth fighting.

[myahele]

The minimum spec upgrade not only affects ps3 players, but also those playing on older/ outdated system. I remember there being a few posts in older threads from people saying that they're worried they might not be able to play due to not meeting the future minimum specs required.

If anything, I feel like PS3 players have a better bargain since -outside of buying a PS4- they're given a free upgrade for the game and I think 14 days free play?

Wasn't said that PC gaming is not that popular in JPN?

[Elim]

When the entire purpose of a thread is to band together and bully a constantly-scapegoated part of the community, an aggressive response from someone with a functioning conscience shouldn't be altogether unexpected.

What is this con science you speak of?

[Serilda]

Wasn't said that PC gaming is not that popular in JPN?

It's approximately equivalent to the PS Vita gaming scene in the US. With every implication that involves. Enthusiasts will build their amazing gaming PCs for imports and obscure visual novels, while everyone else has an old toaster running Windows XP and is happy that way.

[Ogulbuk]

Can we end PC support? It's holding game development back! From the fact that most PCs out there are POS to the fact that devs need to waste time with compatibility issues across multiple configurations, all that time wasted could be used to make the game simply better for everyone!

[RaijinSupreme]

geez what's with all the hate in this thread?

ok so ps3 is getting dropped. It's old, it was going to happen at some point. its simply inevitable.

I'm sorry for those who still play on a ps3, but it had to be known that support for it would drop eventually. I mean, imagine if developers were still trying to make games for the ps2, or the Nin 64 lol. It would be a disaster.

At least you all have time to try and get a ps4. If money is a real issue, you can find used 500gb ps4's out there for cheap now (there are even new ps4 going for around $250 on amazon right now), and you'd be more than prepared for SB with it.

But I gotta be honest, I can't wrap my head around money being too much of an issue seeing as you would have to purchase the game, pay a subscription, and even pay for the internet you would need in order to play this game on a monthly basis.