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  1. #421
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    Quote Originally Posted by Answa View Post
    Could you please, please, please stop making me sound like a pretentious douche that decides things for other people? I'm not. I'm not trying to convince you to pay. I'm not telling you to stop posting. All I'm saying is that everything that can be said has been said and that further posting is pointless. No side will convince the other.

    The one thing I'd like to take the time to say now is, JD: Pot. Kettle. Black.
    You wrote /thread as if your opinion is fact. You made yourself sound like a pretentious douche, I only enhanced that sentiment because, well, if the shoe fits... >.> Anyways, you're correct about no side convincing the other.... but that's what happens on forums. People argue. And on that note, I'm out. Have a good evening everyone!
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    Quote Originally Posted by JackDaniels View Post
    Strange indeeeed.



    Another troll just made it into my ignore list. Come one guys it's a party in there!

    Wait a second, there's an ignore list function now? Where?!
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    Proud member of the "why the the heck are giant obnoxious images allowed in signatures" club.

    Quote Originally Posted by kensredemption
    I'd rather play solo than play with a bunch of elitists.

  3. #423
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    A consideration for those who do not want to pay 14 a week, there is a solution to get the game at half price: consider the roadmap where a patch is due every two months; whilst waiting for 2.0 you could simply pay for one month and then cancel straight away. This will allow you to play the new content and do all those 100 leves you gathered for the month you were off as well as allowing you to see the game change gradually.

    As it seams that most people do not currently like the game in its current state but some say they would pay half price, why not just pay half the time?
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  4. #424
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    I really have to assume that this animosity towards a discount is due to a select group taking the request personally.

    It's as though, because they are willing to pay full price, they take requests for a discounts as an attack against their self-esteem. It's as though we were questioning their intended purchase as being a bad deal. And as a result, they lash out against the perceived threat with insults and derision.

    So, it doesn't matter how much we've sanitized the argument down to being about the benefits and how it could be more profitable. We're not even dealing with people who are interested in the argument at all. We're up against those who perceive an insult against their beloved brand, and they're taking it way too personally.
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    (original by GalvatronZero)

  5. #425
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    Quote Originally Posted by AmyRae View Post
    I really have to assume that this animosity towards a discount is due to a select group taking the request personally.

    It's as though, because they are willing to pay full price, they take requests for a discounts as an attack against their self-esteem. It's as though we were questioning their intended purchase as being a bad deal. And as a result, they lash out against the perceived threat with insults and derision.

    So, it doesn't matter how much we've sanitized the argument down to being about the benefits and how it could be more profitable. We're not even dealing with people who are interested in the argument at all. We're up against those who perceive an insult against their beloved brand, and they're taking it way too personally.
    Translation: my argument isn't working so I'll use personal attacks instead because that will make me seem more right.

  6. #426
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wynn View Post
    Translation: my argument isn't working so I'll use personal attacks instead because that will make me seem more right.
    Yes, that's just what you're doing, only you didn't have an argument to make in the first place. You've never contributed anything to the actual thread topic except to insult anyone who doesn't want to pay full price like you do.

    Objectively, if charging less brings in more revenue, you should support it, because it supports SE to a greater extent. Instead you want to make this about how your own personal ego is wounded by the thought that people don't want to pay as much as you. Get over yourself and take a look at the issue from the perspective of the greater good.
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  7. #427
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    Quote Originally Posted by AmyRae View Post
    Yes, that's just what you're doing, only you didn't have an argument to make in the first place. You've never contributed anything to the actual thread topic except to insult anyone who doesn't want to pay full price like you do.

    Objectively, if charging less brings in more revenue, you should support it, because it supports SE to a greater extent. Instead you want to make this about how your own personal ego is wounded by the thought that people don't want to pay as much as you. Get over yourself and take a look at the issue from the perspective of the greater good.
    You haven't proved that what you said would happen. You fail to point out those those that would go to a new game. Your assumptions about the rest of the player base, to say nothing about the finances of the company, have no merit.

    Also, making it priced at 5$ would cause another PR disaster. If I can come with ways to insult the idea, how do you the internet reviewer, who partially relies on entertaining shows, will do it?


    So you, and your select group of sycophants (see, I can do it too) claim that this is about hurt feelings and the "mass exodus" of "the one true group of fans" who like the game...at sufficient monetary value so their opinions should matter more than others.

    All that has been said of this topic has been said, the rest is you puffing your cheeks to look bigger than you are.

    Feel free to check back though, as you drop lots more money to coast through years old content and half a screen's worth of competitive UI calculations for fear of a teenager's declarations that "You suck, gtfo!" till 3 in the morning.

    I have my own things to enjoy.
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  8. #428
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kallera View Post
    You haven't proved that what you said would happen. You fail to point out those those that would go to a new game. Your assumptions about the rest of the player base, to say nothing about the finances of the company, have no merit.

    Also, making it priced at 5$ would cause another PR disaster. If I can come with ways to insult the idea, how do you the internet reviewer, who partially relies on entertaining shows, will do it?


    So you, and your select group of sycophants (see, I can do it too) claim that this is about hurt feelings and the "mass exodus" of "the one true group of fans" who like the game...at sufficient monetary value so their opinions should matter more than others.

    All that has been said of this topic has been said, the rest is you puffing your cheeks to look bigger than you are.

    Feel free to check back though, as you drop lots more money to coast through years old content and half a screen's worth of competitive UI calculations for fear of a teenager's declarations that "You suck, gtfo!" till 3 in the morning.

    I have my own things to enjoy.
    you do realize they wont review it until the ps3 version (or 2.0) so them charging less now would actually sound like some good press tbh.
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  9. #429
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    I'm one of the people who are willing to pay the full price, but it certainly feels more RIGHT to charge us only 50%.
    6,50€ instead of 13€ is making sense, after all the game is just at 50% regular MMORPG standard.
    They could also make it like..optional to pay the full price? So to play the game, you have to pay 50%, but if you think the game is worth it, you have the option to pay the full price.

    But since my LS will be staying anyways, I don't really care which amount we have to pay in the end.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AmyRae View Post
    I really have to assume that this animosity towards a discount is due to a select group taking the request personally.

    It's as though, because they are willing to pay full price, they take requests for a discounts as an attack against their self-esteem. It's as though we were questioning their intended purchase as being a bad deal. And as a result, they lash out against the perceived threat with insults and derision.

    So, it doesn't matter how much we've sanitized the argument down to being about the benefits and how it could be more profitable. We're not even dealing with people who are interested in the argument at all. We're up against those who perceive an insult against their beloved brand, and they're taking it way too personally.
    nice nice you basicly sayed it right there. nothing the op sayed would change their gameplay or realy has anything to do with them. they just here to troll and get peeps arguing. the game is so much fun to them they cant stay out of the forums.
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