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    Quote Originally Posted by Zetsumei_Tsunarashi View Post
    Correct me if I'm wrong but I think main stat materia has no effect outside of the guaranteed slot. So those vit melds are actually not doing anything to that ring ? Could be that's only for level 60 items, I can't remember.
    So here's what happens: Now you can't even try to meld a ring the way the one I linked is, but any existing ones work properly. I've confirmed I still get the stats from that ring. And if you tried to meld vit onto a vit ring it just says +0 on the screen.

    ...so yes, I have equivalent i190 right side pieces even when running Wanderer's Palace normal.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lyth View Post
    If you look at secondary stats on tanks, stats like crit, det, and ss have relatively higher weight values compared to other jobs (compare 0.530 per point of crit on DRK vs. 0.279 on DRG). You can either think of this as secondary stats being relatively stronger, or primary stats being relatively weaker (secondary stat weights are normalized relative to the primary stats).
    What this is is that they're bloated so that STR and VIT are still shown as 1's instead of the .45 they really are. Just for simplicity sake. They could list them as they actually are in game for comparison to other jobs, and then secondaries would be more like what you see on other jobs.

    Quote Originally Posted by Llus View Post
    VIT is a main stat, but I believe the ARR gear wasn't affected by main stat overmelds. Not even sure if the 150 chrysolite gear was affected by that change (haven't had to run an overmeld like ARR in so long I'm not sure but I believe my overmelded 150 accessories still worked after the change).
    There was a time you could overmeld the 150's this way, but tier 5's are minimum i160. There were never 160+ crafted accessories till after the change. I had some of the STR 150's that I had a couple of vit melds into but nothing serious, and don't have them now. If someone did however, they could have something like a Chrysolite Ring of Slaying with 29 STR 31 VIT (8x4 tier 4 melds) then 24 crit 17 sks, and either 6 det or 7 more sks. Which you'd use would vary by job but would be close. On WAR you'd have a ring with a stat weight of 81.504, closely equivalent to i230 (including tier 5 STR/VIT meld) depending on whether or not there were good secondaries that tier.

    Would be interesting to see if there's someone running around with a set of those.

    This is my WAR synched to 110 with these accessories:



    ...with normal accessories my STR drops to 424. (VIT does go up 3 points to 618 due to being cheap on melds at the end of 3 of those)
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    Last edited by Alistaire; 03-15-2017 at 11:38 AM.