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    Quote Originally Posted by stanrir View Post
    you can put what ever stats you want on the anima so you can make it your bis if you really knew what you were doing
    No. No you can't. Given the DPS increase on the i280s, it's almost as good as the i275 without substats at all. Then, given the i280s get about 100 more substat points then the i275s, even with a random shotgun approach almost every i280 is still going to be better then an anima, even with customized stats.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xerek View Post
    No. No you can't. Given the DPS increase on the i280s, it's almost as good as the i275 without substats at all. Then, given the i280s get about 100 more substat points then the i275s, even with a random shotgun approach almost every i280 is still going to be better then an anima, even with customized stats.
    Why are you so upset that there's different ways to gear up? More options is always good no matter what.

    Quote Originally Posted by Arutan View Post
    I'm not comparing lore nore msq, just content, gear and everything to keep people busy. Since it seems that it's all about content.
    Why complain about something now when it will later be replaced with something else and/or better? <- that's people currently logic. Follow it and you just don't play at all.

    OR you play the game because you enjoy growing stronger and stronger and getting better and better gear? Not to mention the story, lore, all the content... That's an option too, right?
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    Last edited by Thunda_Cat_SMASH; 03-14-2017 at 10:30 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thunda_Cat_SMASH View Post
    Why are you so upset that there's different ways to gear up? More options is always good no matter what.
    I already answered that multiple times. And no, there are not different ways to get a BiS weapon. There is one. Anima and raid weapons are now second best. Only way to get to BiS is start praying to the almighty RNGesus. Anyone, such as me, that made an anima so they would have BiS from completion to SB got screwed.

    Had the Diadem weapons been i275 or less, I would have been fine. RNG joining skill and time as ways to get BiS.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xerek View Post
    so they would have BiS from completion to SB got screwed.
    This is a very specific thing to be unhappy about, also not a good thing to be unhappy about, because it's right before an expansion where both weapons will be nulled, I honestly just cannot get behind the mindset of the i280 being put on a pedestal when really, it only affects everything prior to 4.0.
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    Baby, tell me, what's your motive?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ErryK View Post
    This is a very specific thing to be unhappy about, also not a good thing to be unhappy about, because it's right before an expansion where both weapons will be nulled, I honestly just cannot get behind the mindset of the i280 being put on a pedestal when really, it only affects everything prior to 4.0.
    It's still months before. And whether you agree with it or not, it was a perfectly valid reason to make one, given the relic weapons were BiS from completion until HW. We were given no indication whatsoever that the anima wouldn't follow suit, and no warning these i280s would drop nine days after the anima was complete. You may not share or agree with that motivation, but you should at least respect it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xerek View Post
    It's still months before. And whether you agree with it or not, it was a perfectly valid reason to make one, given the relic weapons were BiS from completion until HW. We were given no indication whatsoever that the anima wouldn't follow suit, and no warning these i280s would drop nine days after the anima was complete. You may not share or agree with that motivation, but you should at least respect it.
    I don't see why your weapon being 5 item levels below what is now the max is a big deal unless you are raiding actively. No content outside of EX Primals and Savage requires a weapon like i280. If you're unhappy that there is an i280 and you can't get it besides RNG, that's fine, you can have that opinion, I just don't share it and don't see it as valid. I do, however, think that you do not have the right to tell me that I can't have an opinion on how specific and petty your opinion is just because for 3 months, your weapon isn't the best. It's just being a child at this point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ErryK View Post
    I don't see why your weapon being 5 item levels below what is now the max is a big deal unless you are raiding actively. No content outside of EX Primals and Savage requires a weapon like i280. If you're unhappy that there is an i280 and you can't get it besides RNG, that's fine, you can have that opinion, I just don't share it and don't see it as valid. I do, however, think that you do not have the right to tell me that I can't have an opinion on how specific and petty your opinion is just because for 3 months, your weapon isn't the best. It's just being a child at this point.
    If the sole reason someone put all the time, gil and effort into an anima was to have BiS from completion to expansion, then having it not be so after just nine days renders all of that time, gil and effort wasted. I could just as easily be in the "good enough" weapon catagory with a Shire or Zurvan weapon that would be 1000x easier to get.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xerek View Post
    There is one.
    There was always onlye one way to get BiS...that's the core concept of "BiS". You just complain that you don't like this way.
    However Diadem is now another way to get good gear, and again, if Diadem was i275, it means that raiders and Anima owners wouldn't have done it. You won't go with up to 71 pick-up to get a weapon that you can get either alone or in a party of 8 people.
    Quote Originally Posted by Lambdafish View Post
    An i275 for 6 months has represented endgame, a fixed goalpost that says "i have reached the end of progression, i have beaten the gear cycle"
    i215 was endgame for 6 months, i245 was engame for 6 months...and now, you have something to do instead of running around in the same old content and getting bored of the game.
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    Last edited by Reynhart; 03-14-2017 at 03:33 PM.