Healers that don't want to DPS are like DPSes who refuse to move out of AoEs.

[Vorx]

I swear this whole post is nothing but close minded people.. They pay the sub let them play how they want. If your GOOD at your Job/Class most the time you can get by if a Healer does some DPS. Those of you who need healing 24/7 just don't seem very good at playing your Job/Class.
God forbid people should try new things, god forbid anything but what you all deem "the right way" actually works. Like i said nothing but close minds..

[VeliusVire]

I swear this whole post is nothing but close minded people.. They pay the sub let them play how they want. If your GOOD at your Job/Class most the time you can get by if a Healer does some DPS. Those of you who need healing 24/7 just don't seem very good at playing your Job/Class.
God forbid people should try new things, god forbid anything but what you all deem "the right way" actually works. Like i said nothing but close minds..

You can't really think in such a micro sense because the game isn't single-player, you're playing with so many other people who think /their/ way is the /best/ way, they're also paying their sub, so if 7 people say the 1 is wrong, does that make them wrong? But they're paying their sub too? it's almost impossible to come to a compromise where everyone agrees on something and that's the end of that.

[Vorx]

You can't really think in such a micro sense because the game isn't single-player, you're playing with so many other people who think /their/ way is the /best/ way, they're also paying their sub, so if 7 people say the 1 is wrong, does that make them wrong? But they're paying their sub too? it's almost impossible to come to a compromise where everyone agrees on something and that's the end of that.

It's still that person's money, does it suck for those who can't dodge or have crappy gear? Yes, but it's still their account NOT YOURS! So deal with it, or either leave or kick them. Don't complain and talk like you know the "right way" just makes you people look and sound like pompous A-holes.

[VeliusVire]

It's still that person's money, does it suck for those who can't dodge or have crappy gear? Yes, but it's still their account NOT YOURS! So deal with it, or either leave or kick them. Don't complain and talk like you know the "right way" just makes you people look and sound like pompous A-holes.

Well, to be fair, the /Right Way/ has Statistical evidence and data that /proves/ it's the right way. But that's not the point, the point is this game is never about /one/ person, and if that's how that person thinks, then there's the door and this isn't the game for them. When you play an MMO, you acknowledge that this is an expanded community of different voices and methods, but when it comes to /game mechanics/, then yes, there's usually the /correct/ way of doing things, as was proven through research. It's not pompous, it's fact.

[VeliusVire]

Alright, tone down the 2002 text style of random caps, you're looking childish. Secondly, I've never told anyone how to play, in fact, if you went back and actually used your eyes to read, you'd find that I'm not against anyone playing their own way but I do remind them that there /IS/ an optimal way to play. If that bothers you, that there's a best way of doing something, well then tough luck, that's not how life works and time for you to grow up. Before you come with such an accusatory tone with nary a shred of any intelligent debate, I recommend you take a look in a mirror and pick up a book and do educate yourself.

[Welsper59]

Alright, tone down the 2002 text style of random caps, you're looking childish. Secondly, I've never told anyone how to play, in fact, if you went back and actually used your eyes to read, you'd find that I'm not against anyone playing their own way but I do remind them that there /IS/ an optimal way to play. If that bothers you, that there's a best way of doing something, well then tough luck, that's not how life works and time for you to grow up. Before you come with such an accusatory tone with nary a shred of any intelligent debate, I recommend you take a look in a mirror and pick up a book and do educate yourself.

I'm fairly sure what he's trying to get at is that what is factually more effective, isn't always necessary. I actually think there's an implied misunderstood definition going on lol. You are arguing "optimal" and is apparently coming off as "mandatory", even if not intended to be. It's pretty easy to derive that conclusion when you define the optimal way as the "right" way, as you did earlier.

I think we can all agree though that min/maxing in XIV is ridiculously overrated in almost all content forms. I get that my mention of "min/max" might be looked at as though I'm saying to always perform to literally the best possible, where even a single point of DPS loss should be a shameful thing that would ruin the rest of your day, but outside of such an extreme... I think we'd find that realistic middle ground.

That being said, it really isn't a big deal if someone does or doesn't do something when it comes to DPSing as a healer. If doing your daily routine is resulting in wipes because healers are not DPSing, I'd argue something is wrong with your DPS (or tank). Likewise if those routine things take 20+ minutes longer, I'd strongly argue the same problems with the DPS themselves (or tank). Would it help for the healer to DPS? That should be obviously "yes". The problems that come up however overlook the primary issue of the party or showcase an illogical/unreasonable expectation for the situation. Not just of the players, since it's not that unreasonable to think someone should do a little more than minimum, but of their own objectives. Why is it a problem that they don't DPS? The answers are typically petty, with very few that actually matter to a given situation.

[VeliusVire]

What...the hell are you even saying? I'm genuinely confused right now, I've never /told/ anyone how to play, and if I have, I'd love to be quoted of where I'm directly attacking someone for not playing how I do. Just because something /works/ doesn't mean it's /optimal/. A BLM spamming Blizzard /works/ but it's not /optimal/. A PLD spamming Flash /works/ but it's not /optimal/. Do you see a pattern? You're demonising something meant with good intentions.

EDIT: And since you seem to be lacking in education, here, let me help [This is me /actually/ being pompous now]
optimal
ˈɒptɪm(ə)l/Submit
adjective
best or most favourable; optimum.
"seeking the optimal solution"

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

Again with the optimal, you elites are so full of yourselves..

Its not even about being optimal, its about being barely competent. If you can't do more dps at 60 than many could at 50, there's something wrong. At that point, you arent even part of the dungeon run anymore, and the run wouldnt slow down hardly at all without you.

[Aquaslash]

I don't have to tell them, anyone who reads any of your comments as well as hundreds of other people's in here can see it. You try to tell people they have to play this way, they have to do this, you don't even attempt to understand why they wanna do it in the first play. All that matters is people who it YOUR way. That is why your all pompous A-holes. You don't like it? NEWS FLASH! NO ONE CARES WHAT YOU LIKE! It's their game they can play how THEY like. End of discussion!

t. 800 DPS Melee who can't juggle his buffs