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  1. #31
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    Quote Originally Posted by alimdia View Post
    Your parties fill fast because we already have match-making and you don't have to compete with 20 other parties for a tank, those other 20 parties went with DF instead.

    If there was no DF and you had to sit out in Idyllshire or a linkshell looking for a tank there would also be dozens of other parties shouting for a tank, you don't magically generate new tanks when you shout, there are only so many tanks to the hundreds of DPS.
    That's irrelevant to the point I'm trying to make? Seems you're just pushing DF as a perfect system, which it isn't. I never said tanks are magically generated, but as far as I'm concerned, it's faster to PF for harder content, faster to DF for casual content... in some cases...

    But the whole point is people are just lazy and would rather queue for content rather than go to a location to do content I guess.
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    Um...are they trying to make everyone dissatisfied? why even have mobs around in the open world if it's just going to be punching bag affairs you cannot lose?
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  3. #33
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    I'm glad Yoshida's going to address the Feast chat restriction personally. It and the PvP community who were active before Garo have gone unanswered long enough.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bass9020 View Post
    I love all the hate for XI even from Yoshi, its starting to really turn my stomach. Everyone wants XIV to be its own game but yet all its ideas MUST come from WoW in some form, when is enough going to be enough?
    I wouldn't call Yoshi's comment about XI "hate" - He just understands that the type of gamers XI appeals to aren't the same type of gamers XIV appeals too. You have to build game for your market and unfortunately a lot of ideas you can pull from XI wouldn't mesh well into the current market.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Istaru View Post
    When all of us that liked XI and wish that this game would stop becoming even more shallow than it already is leave for good.
    Exactly. Why would you not look at the predecessor that is still going for ideas rather than another companies game? It's not like XI was a failure...
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    Quote Originally Posted by alimdia View Post
    Attempting costs money and development time, it's not like they just push a button and done, so they have to be careful with what they do.
    Clearly they thought that Diadem was a GREAT idea! And having 2 extreme raid models instead of keeping what worked and adding on to it (coil model). They really thought about those things.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seraphyna View Post
    Exactly. Why would you not look at the predecessor that is still going for ideas rather than another companies game? It's not like XI was a failure...
    Covering a broader market is probably their goal. Making XIV like XI would just gather more people who play games like XI and less people who play games like WoW, and that market was previously untapped by SE. They wanted to grab other companies' players, not grab FFXI players who were already paying money to Square Enix.

    I still maintain that they can add horizontal elements of gameplay for variety, but I don't think this game will ever stop being a themepark with raiding being the end goal of "hardcore" PVE.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ErryK View Post
    That's irrelevant to the point I'm trying to make? Seems you're just pushing DF as a perfect system, which it isn't. I never said tanks are magically generated, but as far as I'm concerned, it's faster to PF for harder content, faster to DF for casual content... in some cases...

    But the whole point is people are just lazy and would rather queue for content rather than go to a location to do content I guess.
    I actually prefer duty finder over all things , I actually hate party finder, It makes content so exclusive that its very annoying. Like its not fun sitting in your house or apartment going through all the parties tryin to find the right one when you could just duty finder the content
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  9. #39
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    Quote Originally Posted by Masekase_Hurricane View Post
    eh? People would check PF and then join the content that they wanted. Don't forget this is cross world too just like DF.
    We're talking about a hypothetical scenario where there's no DF so PF would have over 5 times the number of parties seeking the same roles, greatly increasing your average wait time in PF.



    Quote Originally Posted by ErryK View Post
    That's irrelevant to the point I'm trying to make? Seems you're just pushing DF as a perfect system, which it isn't. I never said tanks are magically generated, but as far as I'm concerned, it's faster to PF for harder content, faster to DF for casual content... in some cases...

    But the whole point is people are just lazy and would rather queue for content rather than go to a location to do content I guess.
    DF isn't the perfect system, I'm just asking you to think why DF wait time is long (hint: not enough of certain role) and how that exact problem wouldn't disappear if we had no DF, that role would still be scarce, but now you have far more parties in PF seeking that role. Try pugging a raid 2 chests late in the week and tell me how many hours you had to sit waiting.

    Quote Originally Posted by bass9020 View Post
    Clearly they thought that Diadem was a GREAT idea! And having 2 extreme raid models instead of keeping what worked and adding on to it (coil model). They really thought about those things.
    Before Diadem was released they explained it was something new that would be adjusted based on community feedback, they are keeping true to their word, and I'm not talking about current diadem 2.0, they are going to reuse the same system created for diadem in Eureka (4.x) but with different rules.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alerion View Post
    I don't know if this is a misunderstanding on their part, my part or something else entirely but this is the least encouraging thing i've heard about FFXIV in quite some time.
    I really hope this is a misunderstanding. I've never seen someone say "ew I don't want open world content" who in their right mind wouldn't want more content? Also, what's up with the hate for ffxi. The good stuff xi had was fantastic.
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