Sorry Yoshi, but if you award the best weapon in the game by winning the lottery...

[caponesavage]

I dont get all the fuss about these 280 weapons. I mean hypothetically all content currently out could be done without it so why would you need it unless you are a completionist. Why does the introduction of this throw things off balance for you. Its not like we have been seeing posts of people getting kicked from groups because they dont have a 280 weapon.

[LaylaTsarra]

I dont get all the fuss about these 280 weapons. I mean hypothetically all content currently out could be done without it so why would you need it unless you are a completionist. Why does the introduction of this throw things off balance for you. Its not like we have been seeing posts of people getting kicked from groups because they dont have a 280 weapon.

Because the gearaholic crowd has to have it to be happy. It's not a game breaker for sure and it doesn't invalidate the work of those who have 275's.

[Xerek]

Because the gearaholic crowd has to have it to be happy. It's not a game breaker for sure and it doesn't invalidate the work of those who have 275's.

It does if the only reason you wasted all the time, gil and effort was to have a BiS weapon from completion until SB. A reasonable expectation given the relic was BiS from completion until HW and nothing was said that suggested the anima would be different. Just nine days of BiS and then *yoink*, "Sorry, our new Diadem is trash and we needed something to bait people in."

[caponesavage]

It does if the only reason you wasted all the time, gil and effort was to have a BiS weapon from completion until SB. A reasonable expectation given the relic was BiS from completion until HW and nothing was said that suggested the anima would be different. Just nine days of BiS and then *yoink*, "Sorry, our new Diadem is trash and we needed something to bait people in."

BiS is a preference not a need. Many people clear the content without ever getting full BiS gear. Does it help. Sure. Is it a necessity not really. As for the Diadem situation I am all for giving players incentive for doing content. What would be the point of it without incentive.

[Xerek]

BiS is a preference not a need. Many people clear the content without ever getting full BiS gear. Does it help. Sure. Is it a necessity not really. As for the Diadem situation I am all for giving players incentive for doing content. What would be the point of it without incentive.

Yes, but the point is, the only reason I wasted all that time, gil and effort was to have BiS from completion. If I knew this would happen, I would never have started and just used the EX and/or Shire weapons that could have cleared all the content perfectly well. As such, the i280s rendered everything invested into the anima as wasted. And just nine days after completion. That is why I, and others, are upset.

[LaylaTsarra]

It does if the only reason you wasted all the time, gil and effort was to have a BiS weapon from completion until SB. A reasonable expectation given the relic was BiS from completion until HW and nothing was said that suggested the anima would be different. Just nine days of BiS and then *yoink*, "Sorry, our new Diadem is trash and we needed something to bait people in."

No I don't buy it. Your need to justify your relic chase gets pretty old. I have 7 (seven) 275 relics and working on my 8th doing light. I didn't do mine expecting them to be BIZ let alone until expansion. I don't see it as a big issue personally. Get over it.

[Xerek]

No I don't buy it. Your need to justify your relic chase gets pretty old. I have 7 (seven) 275 relics and working on my 8th doing light. I didn't do mine expecting them to be BIZ let alone until expansion. I don't see it as a big issue personally. Get over it.

You completed your animas for your reasons, I completed mine for a different one. Your failure to accept that people may have completed their animas for different reasons shows you to be very narrow-minded. Accept that people have different motivations and get over it.

[LaylaTsarra]

You completed your animas for your reasons, I completed mine for a different one. Your failure to accept that people may have completed their animas for different reasons shows you to be very narrow-minded. Accept that people have different motivations and get over it.

Oh i accept it and you've more than made your point in this and other threads. We get it. You're not happy. I don't have a failure to accept different points of view. You seem to not like mine obviously. There is a difference between expressing one's point of view and repeating oneself over and over again saying the same thing.

[Xerek]

Oh i accept it and you've more than made your point in this and other threads. We get it. You're not happy. I don't have a failure to accept different points of view. You seem to not like mine obviously. There is a difference between expressing one's point of view and repeating oneself over and over again saying the same thing.

The only reason I repeat myself, is because people keep posting "I don't understand why people are upset.", even though it's explained by myself and others multiple times in these threads. Don't agree is fine, everyone is entitled to their opinion. But they should at least understand. People need to respect the opinions and motivations of others, even if they don't share them.

[Thunda_Cat_SMASH]

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Except for the part where it doesn't? Having the 280 doesn't invalidate anything at all, and considering the devs admitting the relic being BiS was a mistake(which it wasn't even BiS for all classes at the end of ARR anyway, only some) and the fact relics have always been behind something else throughout the entirety of HW, it's only reasonable to assume that they'd never be BiS, just a relatively easy to get top tier weapon.