Healers that don't want to DPS are like DPSes who refuse to move out of AoEs.

[Blazinhart]

I'm só tired of this "crucifying healers" kind of thread that even I being a healer who dps whenever I can, is making me wanna quit healing and I wish, hope, pray, that when SB is released, the number of healers go to almost none, that boring hardcore people who think that even the producer of the game is wrong and should follow their point of view, will stop complaining about healers.

[Reiryuu]

I'm só tired of this "crucifying healers" kind of thread that even I being a healer who dps whenever I can, is making me wanna quit healing and I wish, hope, pray, that when SB is released, the number of healers go to almost none, that boring hardcore people who think that even the producer of the game is wrong and should follow their point of view, will stop complaining about healers.

I whole-heartedly agree. I almost want to switch to RDM or SAM not only because of this, but also because the reason YoshiP gave for not giving us a tank/healer class felt like a slap in the face. Hell tanks even get more mounts, but no healer mounts =/

[Azure51]

I'm só tired of this "crucifying healers" kind of thread that even I being a healer who dps whenever I can, is making me wanna quit healing and I wish, hope, pray, that when SB is released, the number of healers go to almost none, that boring hardcore people who think that even the producer of the game is wrong and should follow their point of view, will stop complaining about healers.

I have to agree with you I also main healer and I think healer can dps if they want they don't need to be forced on dpsing,

[Lexia]

I'm só tired of this "crucifying healers" kind of thread that even I being a healer who dps whenever I can, is making me wanna quit healing and I wish, hope, pray, that when SB is released, the number of healers go to almost none, that boring hardcore people who think that even the producer of the game is wrong and should follow their point of view, will stop complaining about healers.

I have leveled and have geared whm but I rarely play it cause of this stuff, I don't mind "casually" dpsing as a whm but not going to go full force cause I could just stay on my main class that a dps and do that.

[Misutoraru]

I'm só tired of this "crucifying healers" kind of thread that even I being a healer who dps whenever I can, is making me wanna quit healing and I wish, hope, pray, that when SB is released, the number of healers go to almost none, that boring hardcore people who think that even the producer of the game is wrong and should follow their point of view, will stop complaining about healers.

i main an AST when 3.0 hit, and I have literally quit any healing class becoz of that Healer MUST DPS meta
i do DF 99.9% of time, it takes time to observe how my party do, how the tank use his/her CD, how my party react to dodge AOE, and how good they equip
sometime I wont do any DPS if I dont feel safe to do so, and there are more and more healer have to DPS thread since 3.X
I remember there was a dungeon run, I m 18X il in my Dragoon, DF get me into Neverreap which was Expert at that time, a tank call out the healer for not doing DPS, neverreap just came out for less than a week, and most of use not even full il200 yet
I m done with it, when 4.0 hit, I will shift to NIN/MCH and RDM, only when I have learn the dungeon better with DPS than I will consider shifting back to my AST

[BigRed5392]

this thread kinda proving most NA players have no idea wtf their doing.

how is leaving a tank @ 50% hp or less a good thing. I call it lazy healing.

much like those who refuse to comfort misery.

Ps this the g/f typing now cuz I'm sick of reading lazy healers/ and numb "tanks" think they play well, when they really 1/2 ass content lol.

if you can't keep people @ 70%+ and dps you kinda lazy as a healer imo.

[Taika]

this thread kinda proving most NA players have no idea wtf their doing.

how is leaving a tank @ 50% hp or less a good thing. I call it lazy healing.

much like those who refuse to comfort misery.

Ps this the g/f typing now cuz I'm sick of reading lazy healers/ and numb "tanks" think they play well, when they really 1/2 ass content lol.

if you can't keep people @ 70%+ and dps you kinda lazy as a healer imo.

1. I'm not a NA player.
2. I've been healing in this game since 1.0 (when healers also did DPS! imagine that!), raiding through Coil and Alexander Savage as a healer.

May I ask, what is your healing experience in this game, since you really don't seem to understand how it works?

[Kitfox]

this thread kinda proving most NA players have no idea wtf their doing.

how is leaving a tank @ 50% hp or less a good thing. I call it lazy healing.

much like those who refuse to comfort misery.

Ps this the g/f typing now cuz I'm sick of reading lazy healers/ and numb "tanks" think they play well, when they really 1/2 ass content lol.

if you can't keep people @ 70%+ and dps you kinda lazy as a healer imo.

The only point of HP that matters, is the last one.

In practical terms, as long as people don't get one-shot, they don't need healing. Sometimes it means keeping people at 100% HP, sometimes it means keeping people above 20%, it depends on the situation, incoming damage and timing.

Reducing the time spent healing is only lazy if it's not replaced by time spent DPSing.

[aleph_null]

no it isn't, not if you are causing the tank stress.

Which I addressed in my post: if you're being stressed by that, ASK the healers to keep you up, I believe if you said politely that you have some issues with your hp getting lower than 50% most people won't have problem with it.

this thread kinda proving most NA players have no idea wtf their doing.

how is leaving a tank @ 50% hp or less a good thing. I call it lazy healing.

much like those who refuse to comfort misery.

Ps this the g/f typing now cuz I'm sick of reading lazy healers/ and numb "tanks" think they play well, when they really 1/2 ass content lol.

if you can't keep people @ 70%+ and dps you kinda lazy as a healer imo.

That 70% number is something you arbitrarily came up and impose on everyone else lol. Why 70%? Why not 90%? Why not 30%? The thing is, as long as the tank doesn't die it's all fine, but if you think it's not then yeah up to you, but please just don't force your "opinion" on every healer you meet that they MUST keep everyone above 70% all the time. Why is it the healer's job to keep everyone above 70% when there's virtually no difference between having 70% hp and 1% hp? As long as everyone is alive the healer is doing enough healing.

p.s. I'm not an NA player