I280 weapons were a mistake

[bswpayton]

So, who should get the most powerful weapons in the game? Should it be the most skilled players (raid weapon)? Should it be the ones that put the most effort in (anima)? Or should it be the Anointed Children of RNGesus, fired into crowds by SE employees with T-Shirt launchers? Apparently SE thinks it should be the third. And here I am, silly me, thinking skill and effort should actually matter.

dude hardly anyone is gona get that weapon period haha so its more like whos being tricked into doing diadum for a .01 chance of gettin a weapon

[Xerek]

dude hardly anyone is gona get that weapon period haha so its more like whos being tricked into doing diadum for a .01 chance of gettin a weapon

Not me. I unsubbed. Vote with your wallet. If I wanted to have a very good weapon, I would have gone with Warring Triad EX and Script weapons. Instead, I put my blood, sweat and tears into an anima for a full year expecting it to be the best at the end. And it was...for a whopping nine days before we got blindsided by this. Sorry, SE. Slapping raiders and anima makers in the face just to get people in your terrible Diadem is inexcusable.

[Kosmos992k]

Not me. I unsubbed. Vote with your wallet. If I wanted to have a very good weapon, I would have gone with Warring Triad EX and Script weapons. Instead, I put my blood, sweat and tears into an anima for a full year expecting it to be the best at the end. And it was...for a whopping nine days before we got blindsided by this. Sorry, SE. Slapping raiders and anima makers in the face just to get people in your terrible Diadem is inexcusable.

You unsubbed because of a weapon drop that you don't like, in a new piece of content? IMHO that's a pretty weak reason to unsub a game. I understand your point about the potential for a BiS weapon that bests your relic coming so quickly, on the other hand, it's not like they are being handed out like the artifact weapon for a few Centurio seals. These weapons are going to be rare for a long time because of drop rates and RNG. Does their existence bother you that much?

[Zojha]

These weapons are going to be rare for a long time because of drop rates and RNG.

Does that matter...?

It's a matter of principles. For all I care, they could put a BiS weapon into the cash shop at a high price - I can tell you those would be rare as well and it would affect me no bit more than those Diadem weapons. Moreover, they, too, would be outdated at some point anyway, so you can even bring that argument. But I'm very sure the forums would be on fire if SE were to do such a thing. Why? Principles. In this case, people think SE should not sell power "on principle".
In the case of that poster, he apparently thinks luck should not be more valuable than effort or talent "on principle". And just as in the case before, some would quit over those principles, others wouldn't. It's pretty simple, really.

[Jijifli]

Does that matter...?

It's a matter of principles. For all I care, they could put a BiS weapon into the cash shop at a high price - I can tell you those would be rare as well and it would affect me no bit more than those Diadem weapons. Moreover, they, too, would be outdated at some point anyway, so you can even bring that argument. But I'm very sure the forums would be on fire if SE were to do such a thing. Why? Principles. In this case, people think SE should not sell power "on principle".
In the case of that poster, he apparently thinks luck should not be more valuable than effort or talent "on principle". And just as in the case before, some would quit over those principles, others wouldn't. It's pretty simple, really.

You can't compare Diadem to putting it in the cash shop.

There are people that are still worthless in any end game content and wouldn't even be able to get the 280 weapons. Anyone can buy a 280 cash shop item.

The complaint I keep hearing is that the effort people put into raiding or anima was worthless, even though A) Those were to be replaced anyways, and B) For anima specifically, it isn't "effort" since it's all just a waiting game. People quit this game over everything. Just look at 3.0 posts where people quit because their 135 weapon was pointless.

[Zojha]

There are people that are still worthless in any end game content and wouldn't even be able to get the 280 weapons.

Uhm...they only need to be in a group that beats the Emergency Mission and get lucky. That's it. Anyone can do that. On the flip side, not anyone could just shell out, like, 60$ or something for a weapon like that.

I can not only compare the two, I can even turn your argument around. Because it's a stupid one that shows you haven't understood the purpose of the comparison: To show that people are willing to quit the game over principles, regardless of what those might be. And for that purpose, I can make more comparisons: Making a quest that glorifies sexism. Making a quest in which you need to torture chocobos. Making Legacy Items available to anyone. Or mailing everyone an i900 weapon at the start of Stormblood. IT DOES NOT MATTER for the point I was making.

[Kosmos992k]

Does that matter...?

It's a matter of principles. For all I care, they could put a BiS weapon into the cash shop at a high price - I can tell you those would be rare as well and it would affect me no bit more than those Diadem weapons. Moreover, they, too, would be outdated at some point anyway, so you can even bring that argument. But I'm very sure the forums would be on fire if SE were to do such a thing. Why? Principles. In this case, people think SE should not sell power "on principle".
In the case of that poster, he apparently thinks luck should not be more valuable than effort or talent "on principle". And just as in the case before, some would quit over those principles, others wouldn't. It's pretty simple, really.

OK, I understand all of that. However, in every RPG I've ever played there are always things that drop rarely that are better than everything else. Not everything is something that is hard earned or built over a long time. It's one of the facets of RPGs I've had to come to terms with over the years. I see this weapon in Diadem very much in that light.