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    Reynhart's Avatar
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    Reynhart Kristensen
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neophyte View Post
    (just PotD as example, but which wasn't higher than other current content).
    Seriously, if you ask a question, at least read the answers...

    Let me phrase it another way: "Considering you already have a finished Anima, and have cleared A12s, would you really be ready to team-up with up to 71 pick-up players for only a slight chance of obtaining a weapon equivalent to what you already have ?"
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    Last edited by Reynhart; 03-10-2017 at 04:31 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reynhart View Post
    Seriously, if you ask a question, at least read the answers...

    Let me phrase it another way: "Considering you already have a finished Anima, andhave cleared A12s, would you really be ready to team-up with up to 71 pick-up players for only a slight chance of obtaining a weapon equivalent to what you already have ?"
    Maybe I would team up with them because it's a challenge and fun to do harder content on large scale? Like you expect that for savage, too, don't you?
    Also the idea to drop one weapon per 72 players wasn't mine either, loot distribution mustn't be done like this (with no 280 weapon).
    If they had given us a full set of new gear for every class on 270 with set stats (just a third 270 set with other stat distribution) I'd be all in, too. Weekly capped or uncapped, idc, but with a moderate chance to obtain at least 1-2 piece a week with reasonable play time (well, RNG is RNG, but i think you get what i mean.. PotD was rng ammount of time, too).
    More choices is good and I have 13 (well, 11 by now, but soon) jobs to gear and I'm not even finished with scripture for all of them.
    This way Diadem would've been a real alternative to other contents.. no raid today, no sturdy window or just tired of beating A1? "Let's q for some diadem, I still have x items I'm interested in to get." If it's really big fun, even better.

    Now it's more like: Do your normal thing for left/right side (weekly capped stuff), go to Diadem for a chance of random best weapon.

    I think uncapped alex savage + 900 script cap + new 270 set from diadem would have been perfect. Maybe step by step and one by one every 2 weeks, idk.
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    Last edited by Neophyte; 03-10-2017 at 05:03 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neophyte View Post
    Maybe I would team up with them because it's a challenge and fun to do harder content on large scale?
    No, you wouldn't...and especially not multiple times after the first few runs without any reward.
    Quote Originally Posted by Neophyte View Post
    Like you expect that for savage, too, don't you?
    Savage is cleared by static, or through excessively restricted party finders where people bail at the first mistake, and it's only 8 people.

    The good thing is that Diadem does not negate Savage or Scripture farm, because you still need everything besides the weapon. So, yeah, you have three things to do now, instead of two. Enjoy.

    What could be better for me, and I've created a topic for that, is for Savage to not drop a weapon in the first place, and also not drop accessories. Raid should drop armor, trials should drop accessories, and additionnal content should drop weapons. And since the content with the less skill required would drop the most important item, it could give enough confidence for players who fear doing raids. And raiders would still be the better equipped players.
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    Last edited by Reynhart; 03-10-2017 at 06:01 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neophyte View Post
    Maybe I would team up with them because it's a challenge and fun to do harder content on large scale? Like you expect that for savage, too, don't you?
    I remember that talk from Savage Coil, it's all a ruse. "For the challenge" didn't work only 8 players, imagine dozens.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reynhart View Post
    Seriously, if you ask a question, at least read the answers...

    Let me phrase it another way: "Considering you already have a finished Anima, and have cleared A12s, would you really be ready to team-up with up to 71 pick-up players for only a slight chance of obtaining a weapon equivalent to what you already have ?"
    This assumes raiders will still bother farming a weapon with an astronomically low drop rate. Plenty have flatout unsubbed because these weapons ruined speed runs. Since FFlogs is their source of fun, they no longer have a reason to play.
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    Last edited by Bourne_Endeavor; 03-11-2017 at 06:44 AM.