Soo... apparently Diadem has i280 weapons with higher WD than alexandrian/anima lux

[Frowny]

I don't get it, I seriously don't. What is the problem? Why is this an issue?

Because those who worked for their relic, last step being NINE DAYS old, got told "lel, your work is wasted". In 2.0 the relic was viable going into HW for a while easily and they didn't toss in a random i150 weapon before hand.

There was absolutely no reason to make the relic obsolete and turn a better weapon into FATE grinding. They did this to coax people into content (besides locking mats), nothing more.

Edit: Is it stacked behind RNG? Yes. But what matters is the principle.

[Omegakiyohime]

Eh, I'm not going to get worked up over the potential of my anima being replaced. As of this posting, I haven't even seen an Emergency Mission. The first hurdle to an i280. Then I would need to have a group capable of beating the boss. I'd have to get the drop and it would have to be for my blm.

My work hasn't been invalidated yet, and because I really don't plan on running Diadem 24/7, I doubt it will before Stormblood launches.

[Aniya_Estlihn]

Because those who worked for their relic, last step being NINE DAYS old, got told "lel, your work is wasted". In 2.0 the relic was viable going into HW for a while easily and they didn't toss in a random i150 weapon before hand.

There was absolutely no reason to make the relic obsolete and turn a better weapon into FATE grinding.

I finished my weapon, and I am working on two others. My work is not wasted and I have a nice weapon to boot.
People are blowing things out of proportion, it's downright silly no matter how you try and parse it.

Take a step back, take a deep breath and come to the obvious realization that this gear does not matter.
Let the weapons exist, there's no reason for them not to when they will be quickly outclassed before even the next tier drops.

[Frowny]

Take a step back, take a deep breath and come to the obvious realization that this gear does not matter.
Let the weapons exist, there's no reason for them not to when they will be quickly outclassed before even the next tier drops.

Raises the question of why even do it? Why not other rewards.

And it won't be outclassed. i130/135 could carry you to 60 in HW (not 100% optimal but completely doable). i270/280 will likely do the same into SB if history repeats.

[Zetsumei_Tsunarashi]

They had to make a pretty big carrot to make people chase after for the next 4 months. Pretty sure this is the last content we're getting before stormblood.

If they didn't put this in, the content would be DoA and everyone would just unsub for 4 months.

On the other hand, these weapons also will be completely useless in 4 months. So feel free to unsub anyway.

[cakesphere]

I finished my weapon, and I am working on two others. My work is not wasted and I have a nice weapon to boot.
People are blowing things out of proportion, it's downright silly no matter how you try and parse it.

Take a step back, take a deep breath and come to the obvious realization that this gear does not matter.
Let the weapons exist, there's no reason for them not to when they will be quickly outclassed before even the next tier drops.

It's not just the gear that's an issue. Someone thought recycling FATES and locking an insanely good weapon behind four layers of RNG was an appropiate thing to design and put into the game live. This is extremely concerning to me as this content is not fun at all nor rewarding. I seriously worry for the quality of Stormblood after this.

It's not just the gear, it's the underlying design principles. I wish I could understand why SE did this. I want to understand. The whole thing is just disappointing and sad.

[Bourne_Endeavor]

That they did not want to waste dev time working on something players won't do ?

And in doing so rendered the relic weapon have been working on since 3.1 completely obsolete. I get why they did it, but I cannot exactly blame people who put in that effort for being salty. Our relic is literally glamour now. Had they released this closer to late April or early May, I don't think people would be nearly as upset.

[Frowny]

On the other hand, these weapons also will be completely useless in 4 months. So feel free to unsub anyway.

Ripped that flimsy argument a few pages back. tl;dr you can use that for anything ("why grind for shire gear?").

Edit: Bourne nailed it.

[Neophyte]

Well, after everyone called PotD a success...any surprise? Whether there's a silver chest is random, whether the chest explodes is random, whether it upgrades if it doesn't explode is random, whether it upgrades the right thing .

is random, whether you have a hoard on your floor is random, whether you get a pomander of intuition to see it is random, what's INSIDE the hoard is random... and I'm just listing the rewards of RNG hell here, the trap/floor baggage goes extra.

They have heard your feedback and put more RNG up! Please be satisfied.

And although the weapon was not BiS it was a success.
PotD was/is famous because it provides a viable weapon while you level another class. And not because it was the way-2-go to attain BiS.

I don't get why a randomized 275 weapon wasn't enough?
Would cater to non-raiders and no-relic-players just the same it does now (as for everyone else who wants to gear a secondary class without getting another weapon from raid or relic), but would not piss of x ammount of players.

So yes, this is indeed a horrible decision, which can't be reasonably explained. Equal loots in different contents should cater to different playstyles to obtain highest gear. And not be used to get everyone into one content and invalidating the other ones

[Lambdafish]

That they did not want to waste dev time working on something players won't do ?

I have 12 other jobs that need i265+ weapons and gear. Rendering relic/raid worthless is not a good tradeoff when i270 would have been fine.