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  1. #31
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    Frowny's Avatar
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    Rai Dolabnha
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    Faerie
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    Lancer Lv 90
    Keep in mind they also haven't unlocked the item to upgrade Shire weapons.

    Just the fact they'd toss this in is a slap in the face.
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  2. #32
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    madolyn's Avatar
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    Minna Valara
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    Excalibur
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    Paladin Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by ShinMetsu View Post
    "Mid cycle" ? It's been 5 1/2 months since 3.4.
    People still progressing? They'd probably appreciate / need the upgrade to clear.
    People that recently cleared? Well, consider it an achievement that you cleared without Diadem updates!
    its still the final cycle....whats your point?
    People still progress for various reason. Some can't build a static, some took a break and just returned, some just pug... not everything is tied to performance.
    Wasn't necessarily talking about savage progression as much as I was talking about people doing relics.

    With some of the mentality around here of "well its just going to be replaced in stormblood anyway" you would get the impression that theres not point to even play the game at all if everything is eventually replaced.
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  3. #33
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    Ali Lifesaver
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    Gilgamesh
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    Marauder Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Niqote View Post
    I feel like people might be under estimating how much work/RNGish it will be to get the weapons. We don't even know the frequency of the spawn rates. This is why they dislike data miners.
    Their item level would have been posted in the patch notes if they weren't so busy with SB and had to delay that portion twice now, so I don't see why point fingers at data miners, would you have complained if it was posted in the patch notes even though this exact conversation would have happened anyways?
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  4. #34
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    Sentinillia's Avatar
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    Sentinillia Emilie
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    Phoenix
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    Lancer Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Niqote View Post
    I feel like people might be under estimating how much work/RNGish it will be to get the weapons. We don't even know the frequency of the spawn rates. This is why they dislike data miners.
    The rarer they are the worse the issue is. This punishes players for NOT GETTING LUCKY ENOUGH. The very reason they added the token system for raids.

    I do hope this is either a bad dream or an early april fools joke...
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  5. #35
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    Wubrant Drakesbane
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    Balmung
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    Fisher Lv 90
    Not that I'm saying do it faster or anything but at some point the treadmill will always slap you in the face lol.

    "Spends 50 hours on weapon" , new content - takes 30 minutes to get more powerful item. That's not really new XD. Usually built behind an expansion true, but not always.

    At least the Relic Weapons have entirely worth while glamours.

    Perhaps they can change relics slightly - to make people love their relics more. They make the (fully) completed relics have like +% bonus based on the best weapon you've obtained for a given level range (level 50 relic, level 60 relic, etc etc). So you know your relic will be the best weapon, and if temporarily subverted it'll be best again once you obtain that new item that put it down. % shouldn't be too large, but at least numerically slightly better - just to make it still "the best" lol.

    Maybe not "close enough" but I do think it's nice that SE would help boost players up quite a bit so they can enjoy all content more readily while they wait for the release.
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  6. #36
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    Awful Name
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    Faerie
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Yay now as a Drk after getting my 275 relic I can farm a 280 weapon that'll have parry allover it. Thanks SE.
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  7. #37
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    Char Mae
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    Sargatanas
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    Warrior Lv 70
    so they havent taken the weekly lock off of savage, they haven't even given out gobdips yet and they're releasing i280 weapons? somethings not making sense here. You also have to remember 3.55a and b was supposed to be one patch released at the same time and the only reason it got split was because diadem had a huge bug that needed fixing, so in turn they'd be screwing over everyone who did the anima...
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  8. #38
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    Frowny's Avatar
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    Rai Dolabnha
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    Faerie
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    Lancer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Shougun View Post
    Not that I'm saying do it faster or anything but at some point the treadmill will always slap you in the face lol.
    Big difference between it being the inevitable upgrade and a flat-out sucker punch.
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  9. #39
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    Texa Yuu
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    Diabolos
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    Scholar Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by madolyn View Post
    With some of the mentality around here of "well its just going to be replaced in stormblood anyway" you would get the impression that theres not point to even play the game at all if everything is eventually replaced.
    Not so much replaced as built on top of.

    Everything in this game and even the game itself is ultimately dated. We pay for having a ever-expanding world by having once highly sought after gear eventually become defunct.
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  10. #40
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    Lilyth Chan
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    Gilgamesh
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    Black Mage Lv 90
    NUUUU

    I didn't even finish my 275 relic yet (still on light farm) and it's already DED.

    ;----------;
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