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  1. #11
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    Darium Ashaman
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nuru View Post
    Thanks, that was the joke. :P The reason why everything was spread out in the first place was to disperse people away from just a single city. The OP doesn't like that.
    In that case, I apologize for not getting the joke. It's early in the morning here and I have not fully woken up yet.
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  2. #12
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    Etoile Kallera
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    Having all guild in all cities as it is would be chaos., the hamlets can do it.
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  3. #13
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    Diversity is good. Homogenization is bad.
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  4. #14
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    Deminia Brellenwind
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    I agree that the devs needed to get people to roam around more and do things in the other cities. Hence the change to make guild marks only available in the cities hosting the associated guild. This was before we had airships and chocobos to ease travel between cities, which had greatly hindered players from easily getting around to try doing leves in other locations.

    I do think it might be time to update the concept now that we have easier access. Why not have outpost caravans in other locations for each company? I agree that it is a quite tedious to only be able to do Grand Company leves in one region. A solution might be to extend into Mor Dhona and Coerthas and have caravans and leve options for ALL of the major cities/Companies available there.

    Another option could be to reward some guild marks occasionally in the cities not hosting your guild, but continue to reward players for traveling to the host city by granting more guild marks when doing leves in the city hosting the guild.

    While it is very true that you can eventually end up with thousands of extra guild marks, when you are forced to mainly do your leves in one region over and over again in order to earn enough marks to get a needed class ability, it gets very boring. I am currently repeating the same two leves in Limsa for the fishing guild so I can get my next level of Dowse. I never want to step foot on that same fishing ledge and catch those same bream again - but until I get enough marks, I am stuck heading back there. If there were more variety in leve options at each location, that would help - but we are all repeating the same tired and boring leves. We need more leves, we need new leves (for every class/category) and we need more interesting leves in new locations.
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  5. #15
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    It makes perfect sense why you only get guild marks from the city the guild is located in, so I completely disagree with you. They just need to let you get leve's from the guild itself, so you can specify which marks you want...because randomizing them is pretty dumb.
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  6. #16
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    The guild location and what not from city to city is just fine in my opinion, Op is being somewhat petty from where I stand. Not to mention, its not difficult to earn all the GM you need te roll on. I hade every GM ability avaliable in THM/CON/GSM/MIN the second I finished my 36 quest. Bang it out then go to whatever location you desire.

    Just goes to show you that no matter what they do in game, someone will take issue with it.

    As to the all guilds in all cities idea someone mentioned, please don't do that SE, it is good the way it is.
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  7. #17
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aleczan View Post
    I, on the other hand, like the LQ&Guild Mark system now.
    Before, it was so hard for me to get lucky enough to find LQ that offers the Guild Marks that I want. Now I can get at least 6000 Guild marks from one trip because the very high possibility of Guild Marks LQs popping at the expected place.
    ^ THIS. People need to pay attention to this post.

    THISSSS.
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  8. #18
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    Llewelyn Lorwerth
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nuru View Post
    Thanks, that was the joke. :P The reason why everything was spread out in the first place was to disperse people away from just a single city. The OP doesn't like that.
    No, you misunderstand me. I don't want everyone to hang out in the same starting area, either.

    But slapping a bandaid on it isn't a fix.

    If most people are preferring Ul'Dah... there's a reason for it. I personally prefer Limsa, and this system has been punishing me as a result. So no, this isn't working to get people out of Ul'Dah, as I've ended up spending more time there as a result of it.

    I know they're revamping everything in 2.0, and likely will be addressing the reason Ul'Dah is so popular. Great. But in the mean time, this is the wrong way to go around fixing that.

    Quote Originally Posted by Aleczan View Post
    I, on the other hand, like the LQ&Guild Mark system now.
    Before, it was so hard for me to get lucky enough to find LQ that offers the Guild Marks that I want. Now I can get at least 6000 Guild marks from one trip because the very high possibility of Guild Marks LQs popping at the expected place.
    Here's a concept. Rather than tying the guild marks of a leve with any particular class (thus forcing you to play in that class or forfeit the reward)... just reward guild marks based on which job you complete the leve with. Now you get the guild marks you want and you can do it anywhere.


    Quote Originally Posted by Kallera View Post
    Having all guild in all cities as it is would be chaos., the hamlets can do it.
    I never said have all guilds in all cities. Just to let guild marks be distributed wherever. The guilds being in specific cities makes sense and is fine with me.


    Quote Originally Posted by Deminia View Post
    I agree that the devs needed to get people to roam around more and do things in the other cities. Hence the change to make guild marks only available in the cities hosting the associated guild. This was before we had airships and chocobos to ease travel between cities, which had greatly hindered players from easily getting around to try doing leves in other locations.

    I do think it might be time to update the concept now that we have easier access. Why not have outpost caravans in other locations for each company? I agree that it is a quite tedious to only be able to do Grand Company leves in one region. A solution might be to extend into Mor Dhona and Coerthas and have caravans and leve options for ALL of the major cities/Companies available there.

    Another option could be to reward some guild marks occasionally in the cities not hosting your guild, but continue to reward players for traveling to the host city by granting more guild marks when doing leves in the city hosting the guild.

    While it is very true that you can eventually end up with thousands of extra guild marks, when you are forced to mainly do your leves in one region over and over again in order to earn enough marks to get a needed class ability, it gets very boring. I am currently repeating the same two leves in Limsa for the fishing guild so I can get my next level of Dowse. I never want to step foot on that same fishing ledge and catch those same bream again - but until I get enough marks, I am stuck heading back there. If there were more variety in leve options at each location, that would help - but we are all repeating the same tired and boring leves. We need more leves, we need new leves (for every class/category) and we need more interesting leves in new locations.
    Agreed on all accounts.


    Quote Originally Posted by KiriA500 View Post
    It makes perfect sense why you only get guild marks from the city the guild is located in, so I completely disagree with you. They just need to let you get leve's from the guild itself, so you can specify which marks you want...because randomizing them is pretty dumb.
    That would make sense, except the guilds aren't the one giving guild marks as a reward for leves. Kinda odd IMO. Though I'd rather earn guild marks doing guild tasks than leves, as it would open things up.


    Quote Originally Posted by Coglin View Post
    The guild location and what not from city to city is just fine in my opinion, Op is being somewhat petty from where I stand. Not to mention, its not difficult to earn all the GM you need te roll on. I hade every GM ability avaliable in THM/CON/GSM/MIN the second I finished my 36 quest. Bang it out then go to whatever location you desire.

    Just goes to show you that no matter what they do in game, someone will take issue with it.

    As to the all guilds in all cities idea someone mentioned, please don't do that SE, it is good the way it is.
    Guild location is fine. Guild marks being distributed the way they are means I've spent close to no time in Limsa since the beta ended last year. Granted, I'm not as high level as some people, but so what? My highest right now is Archer34, and I don't have anywhere near every guild mark ability, and I've done a fair number of leves.

    In any case, guild marks are less of an issue in the long run than the grand company thing. If you dont care about guild marks, you can do leves anywhere. If you join a grand company, you're immediately restricted where you can do grand company content.
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  9. #19
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    I half-read your post.. tl

    Yoshi said DO NOT pick a GC based on gear. End point. They are changing it later.
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  10. #20
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    Yoso Carrasco
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    Hyperion
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    Monk Lv 77
    Like I said earlier, the Grand Company is mostly a personal choice. Pick Limsa since you like it so much and enjoy your chocobo. The company gear is bested easily by crafted gear + materia so that is another thing you won't have to factor into your decision.

    I picked Ul'dah because I like the city's aesthetics, its music, and the grand company music even though my main is CNJ and so far no problems here.
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