If the formula is still the same during stormblood will you still be playing or leave

[Reynhart]

well raijin's response to ops start post def has more likes than the ops statement so at least on this thread , not many people share ops opinion, like I said as far as mmos go there really arent to many games better than this one.

And again, when people leave an MMO, it's not automatically to play another MMO. And most people don't even bother posting on the forum so any like or dislike on this thread has no statistical relevance.

Didn't say he was the only one, but even just going off the majority of this forum thread, as well as the hundreds of thousands of people that still play the game

I think lots of people still play the game despite not liking the formula that much. People like me that have been more and more disappointed by HW and just wait for SB to make a definitive move.

[addz3]

I don't really understand threads like these or any of the ones going on about how repetitive the game is. This isn't a dig at anyone but I think those that find themselves in that frame of mind, obviously play to much. Sometimes right before a new patch or expansion I can understand feeling that way but there are those that will just obliterate the story asap, IMO, just like speed runs, it ruins the game. What's the rush? You know there isn't going to be new content for awhile after the expansion, so why do people try to complete it as soon as they can. The ideology of getting it done asap just screws you in the end, and creates a bad community...

[bswpayton]

I don't really understand threads like these or any of the ones going on about how repetitive the game is. This isn't a dig at anyone but I think those that find themselves in that frame of mind, obviously play to much. Sometimes right before a new patch or expansion I can understand feeling that way but there are those that will just obliterate the story asap, IMO, just like speed runs, it ruins the game. What's the rush? You know there isn't going to be new content for awhile after the expansion, so why do people try to complete it as soon as they can. The ideology of getting it done asap just screws you in the end, and creates a bad community...

This ^^ thank you someone gets it , look at whats happened people spammed zur like he was a bad habbit expecting ultima to be something special and now are lookin for things to do. I wish more people took this approach and just seriously just took their time with the game but to bad it will never happen.

[Reynhart]

I don't really understand threads like these or any of the ones going on about how repetitive the game is.

Every MMO is repetitive, you can't do new content every day. The "repetitive issue" is with the formula itself. I didn't rushed anything and, after a few month, the content I didn't do is now useless, most content on odd patches is worthless unless I play several roles, etc...for me, that's a problem on the long run.
My previous experience in MMO was with FFXI, and each expansion managed to offer gear in a different way without any issue, even when not considering the fact that old gear wasn't automatically obsolete when new gear is released.

[Rufalus]

The answer to all of the questions is yes I'll still play and find it very engaging because there are a lot more good things than there are bad in this game, but I'll comment on each criticism with my thoughts.

If stormblood continues to offer nothing more but empty maps when all your jobs are at 70 will you still play?

Would be nice for the field zones to stay popular after people are done with leveling. That would need a rethink of rewards from open-world battle content. As an aside, it would be convenient if we could stack maps instead of only being capable of holding one of each type.

Weekly caps on tomes repeating exactly everything we have now, will you still play?

Since there are multiple ways to get high-level gear, it's not really a problem. It sounds like the available options may also expand some time during the 4.x series.

Gears becoming useless every 3-6 months and everyone can obtain an Ilvl close to what you worked so hard to get, will you still play?

It's not the right game to worry about what other people have, or the vertical climb. This design just needs to be accepted to enjoy the game because it will not change.

Dungeons/content continue to be a faceroll pretty much through the entire expansion like it is now aside from savage content, will you still play?

Dungeons leave something to be desired. I don't think they necessarily need to increase the difficulty of content outside of Savage modes, but if anything can be done to reduce linearity and make each run feel a little different, it would be appreciated a lot. Anything that is designed to be repeated many times for months or years would benefit from some random elements.

Nerfing content after a while punishing players over and over again that worked so hard to grind stuff for relics so everyone else can catch up, will you still play?

That's again just a player mentality thing to get over. Just enjoy yourself and don't worry about what other people have. If old content doesn't get smoothed over to allow new players to catch up fast, then too many people lose interest before they reach our position and the game is not successful and it dies.

[Bourne_Endeavor]

I don't really understand threads like these or any of the ones going on about how repetitive the game is. This isn't a dig at anyone but I think those that find themselves in that frame of mind, obviously play to much. Sometimes right before a new patch or expansion I can understand feeling that way but there are those that will just obliterate the story asap, IMO, just like speed runs, it ruins the game. What's the rush? You know there isn't going to be new content for awhile after the expansion, so why do people try to complete it as soon as they can. The ideology of getting it done asap just screws you in the end, and creates a bad community...

This really ought to be emphasised. As someone who does play near daily, I can appreciate the devs simply won't ever be able to create enough content to keep my hooked throughout a patch cycle. And that's okay. I find other things to do within the game or simply play something else. No game can cater to people indefinitely. Could things be improved with XIV? Absolutely. I do feel they need to focus more on specific content and being a little less broad. This is why we saw things like Diadem and LoV flop. The former warranted far more attention while the latter just doesn't fit with the game at all. That doesn't mean the game needs some sort of overhaul. Focus on what they're good at and improve it.

Regardless, I'll be sticking around for the foreseeable future. If I do get bored down the road, I'll move on. No big deal.

[bswpayton]

Every MMO is repetitive, you can't do new content every day. The "repetitive issue" is with the formula itself. My previous experience in MMO was

How long do you think gear should last, I just got to the end of hw not to long ago you can still destroy half the content in the game with lore gear on. My first time doing sohm al hard was as a tank in min item level and stilled pulled everything.

Same thing with dun scathe when I did it was in lore gear, lore gear and a piece or two from a dungeon, can get you into sophia extreme the second to last latest primal. 250 gear can get you into alex savage 9-12 and zurvan the latest primal. And now 270 gear will probably be able to carry you all the way to level 66-68 in storm blood so how wouldn't it last exactly if you dont do the hardest content in the game you can do everything else with just 230 lore gear and a few sohm al hard pieces.

[RaijinSupreme]

I think lots of people still play the game despite not liking the formula that much. People like me that have been more and more disappointed by HW and just wait for SB to make a definitive move.

and IMO, that's dumb. I could understand if this was a free game, or at least not a sub based game, but to continue to pay for a game believed to be mediocre, and even to buy an expansion for said game knowing that it really is all going to be the same thing again, is ludicrous.

If you want there to be a definitive move in Stormblood, then you will need to take definitive action, and there is nothing more definitive than a vote with your wallet. If the majority of the fanbase is willing to buy and continue buying a game despite its flaws, then it gives the dev team no motivation to make any changes. Why should they? You going to play the game anyway, so its clearly not broken. You know what made the dev team reboot the game from 1.0? no only because people complained, but mainly because they decided to not play it. When enough people decide to stop playing, or even not play it at all, is when you'll see those drastic overhaul formula changes happen.

So playing the game despite not liking the formula is only ensuring that a change in the formula won't come. If you don't like it, don't play it.

[addz3]

Every MMO is repetitive, you can't do new content every day. The "repetitive issue" is with the formula itself. I didn't rushed anything and, after a few month, the content I didn't do is now useless, most content on odd patches is worthless unless I play several roles, etc...for me, that's a problem on the long run.
My previous experience in MMO was with FFXI

I still don't understand... You yourself acknowledge that MMO's are repetitive? Then if this is of major concern to you then these are obviously not the games for you surely? This isn't a dig at you either. I myself played FFXI and it was the same thing, repetitive. EXP parties for 10+ hours, and don't even go there with Abyssea. All gear has to become obsolete or there will never been anything new? I think this game does a good job of making gear useful once its no longer useful stats wise, but the glamour system.

[addz3]

Anyway, I forgot the OP. I'll be here, cannot wait for Samurai!