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  1. #121
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    Quote Originally Posted by Underdog2204 View Post
    Well am not suprised you don't coz it basically blows your entire premise out of the water. You cannot process that you've been shown to .
    If we are tryin to combine characters now if thats what your getting at I have three alts so Id actually say Ive surpassed you then in the commendation department if we are going that route that now we add up a total tally ( In less thank half the amount of time).

    I was just posting something that I thought would be nice to have in the game hardly anyone even touched on the premise it actually makes alot of sense. And again Im not going to let you call me a lair endgame is anything thats beyond the msq so you can really shut up wit that I am not a lair I have no reason to lie. And from the very beginning you got on to me about tanking so you can whine about my remarks to you about dps if youd like but you began it. It simply makes no sense for unsync runs to count the same as instances ran because they are different types of runs. Just like the example I gave of collectibles two different types two different achievements.

    I actually do endgame content but ok, sure haha just stick to your long dps ques and meaning nothing in the game. I dont mean this to anyone else but u because others have had a discussion you are just yapping your gums

    This is what I said which was not a lie and I clearly specifically called you out alone, so I dont really see the part where I lied.

    How and where did I lie , you said do you do endgame, I said yess what the hell is endgame then to you then if its not any level 60 content extremes, savage , or 24 man raids.
    look dude I am not a lair , I'm sure your imaginary tank did get those commendations , are the 24 mans end game yes, are all the extreme primals end game yes, is any type of alex endgame yes the hell it is. So Im not lying if you said oh have you done the most current endgame so you can keep up wit the crowd and all the cool kids I would of said that I like to take my time and will get to it thats not lying. So like I said again Im not one to argue are brag but if you wana go there then so be it, just likek people want to tell me that commendations dont mean you preformed well. You damn sure cant say that only current content is endgame because that would be a lie, everything past hw msq is endgame, and so is anything past dragonsong which really the only form of endgame in dragonsong is nidhog like I said earlier.
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  2. #122
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    Quote Originally Posted by bswpayton View Post
    If we are tryin to combine characters now if thats what your getting at I have three alts so Id actually say Ive surpassed you then in the commendation department if we are going that route that now we add up a total tally.
    Well he's been deleted (my PLD for 2.x), he had 2k+ and I played him for far less than I did Daci.

    Hmm how does that work for you?

    And wrong you are a liar, you have every reason to lie. You dug yourself a hole pretending to know what you are talking about and now you have come across people more experienced calling you out on the bs you've been talking you can't climb back out of it. So now you just have to double down (contraditcing yourself at the same time) and hope for the best :P

    My remarks on tanking were the fact you get more coms just for being a tank regardless of how well you did... Obviously this simple thing people have been telling you for pages just will not get into that head of yours. Your comments on me being dps have only been to do with me being "less important" and lower than you... Clearly not true since again I am more experienced, you don't get a pass because of the job you chose to spout bs and have everyone listen.

    You even read what you say? It doesn't look like it.
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  3. #123
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    The achievements specifically state clearing the dungeon, not clearing the dungeon at appropriate levels.. So it makes perfect sense. If you're so into commendations as you say, look at the likes you have received in this thread. 0, yep, Zero. THAT is how much people agree with all that you have said and is why no one has ever brought this up. The only person who cares about this change is you, just you, and it's only you who can't see that Commendations is a screwed system that does not reflect your game play in any way shape or form.

    This entire thread is you throwing your weight around saying your commendations would be higher than your dungeons if you didn't run unsynced and want the evidence to prove it, believing it would show you off as a really brilliant player. It doesn't, in any way, it just shows that you have an ego problem, and believe the game should be changed to suit your sole whim.
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  4. #124
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    Quote Originally Posted by bswpayton View Post
    and how long have you been playing looks like sense 2013 so it took you what three years to get that wow Im impressed not really. Yea Ive only been playing 8 months , so like I said I have no reason to rush any content in the game. This post wasnt about you or me for that matter , I was just simply asking for commendations to have the option to exceed your instances by taking unsync runs out of the equation. How this got on endgame and gear and all of that stuff is just because of the things you posted. a


    Yea I would hope for myself it didnt take 2 in a half to 3 years to reach your awesome glory get out of here with that dude. I can do what youve done in less than a year sense Ive only been playing 8 months.
    So it's ok for you to take your time, but not him. Got it.
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  5. #125
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    Quote Originally Posted by Settiesama View Post
    The achievements specifically state clearing the dungeon, not clearing the dungeon at appropriate levels.. So it makes perfect sense. If you're so into commendations as you say, look at the likes you have received in this thread. 0, yep, Zero. THAT is how much people agree with all that you have said and is why no one has ever brought this up. The only person who cares about this change is you, just you, and it's only you who can't see that Commendations is a screwed system that does not reflect your game play in any way shape or form.

    This entire thread is you throwing your weight around saying your commendations would be higher than your dungeons if you didn't run unsynced and want the evidence to prove it, believing it would show you off as a really brilliant player. It doesn't, in any way, it just shows that you have an ego problem, and believe the game should be changed to suit your sole whim.
    this is a forum Im not here for likes

    My point is my commendations are higher and so are other players I would just actually like to see the number value without the fluff unsync runs Ive done with friends.
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  6. #126
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    Quote Originally Posted by bswpayton View Post
    this is a forum Im not here for likes
    ... Clearly you missed the point, which I should not be surprised since you been doing that the entire thread.
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  7. #127
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    Quote Originally Posted by bswpayton View Post
    this is a forum Im not here for likes

    My point is my commendations are higher and so are other players I would just actually like to see the number value without the fluff unsync runs Ive done with friends.
    "Fluff instances are bad. All the fluff commendations I've got are a-ok though."

    Ok got it xD
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  8. #128
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    Quote Originally Posted by bswpayton View Post
    My point is my commendations are higher and so are other players I would just actually like to see the number value without the fluff unsync runs Ive done with friends.
    So what about the pre-built full party synced runs when no one can give coms? They shouldn't count either? Have you even considered fully what you are asking? This is why I called what you want a whim, you have put no thought into this at all. Your other posts have shown it's an ego boost for you, this thread is over, the actual point was already shown and most have already just waved their hand with it.
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  9. #129
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    Quote Originally Posted by bswpayton View Post
    So to just outright say that people get commendations for just random reasons is a lie
    Did you really just call me a liar lol

    People in your very own thread have said they have given people commendations for stuff OTHER than skill/performance; which in the end is random subjective reasons.

    I myself have given players commendations for being "nice people" (even if they weren't very skilled).

    I've also given commendations to new players simply because they were new and listened to advice even if they were pretty bad at the game at that point (I mean they are new so I don't care they are really bad, but they obviously shouldn't take the commendation I gave them as a sign they are good at the game...seriously I hope not...I gave it as encouragement to keep playing and keep learning)

    I personally know it isn't a lie whether you believe me or not since I'VE DONE IT. Multiple times. If you can somehow magically prove I am lying about the commendations I've given out then feel free to try.

    I have even given people commendations on my alts just to get the challenge log EXP and no other reason or about their performance at all, it's probably a bad habit but it's just commendations in a game and I wanted my EXP so I toss it at whoever I can at the end of the dungeon.

    If you do a dungeon/raid and you leave at the end and get a commendation...great, but...how do you know why they gave it to you? That's the whole point, you don't.

    So you cannot judge your performance in that run afterwards properly since the commendation you got might be for a reason other than your skill/performance. You can't just assume "Oh I got a commendation I must have played my role well"...because the person who commended you might have just done it cause they liked your glamour or just to get challenge log EXP and in truth you actually were not very good or even kinda bad at you role.

    Again people might give commendations to players they "think" did well at their role, but in truth they don't even have the credentials that make their praise worth taking to heart. Just like the medical student example I gave you. Did you actually read it? It clearly illustrates why you can't always blindly accept other people praising you since you don't know if they are qualified to give you constructive feedback or not about your skill at a particular task.

    If it is a task they do not know how to do themselves or a task they have no experience with or knowledge about then how would they be qualified to tell you that you did well? People do praise people all the time just to be nice to others. You are supposed to understand the difference between "constructive feedback from someone more knowledgeable than you that you should take to heart" and someone who is "just being nice and supportive of your efforts despite not knowing whether you did something properly or not"

    Would an in-game example make sense to you??

    Example: A healer gives a tank a commendation at the end of a dungeon, but this healer has never played tank and doesn't know the game well enough to realize that tank actually never used any defensive cooldowns at all during the run. Is that tank doing a good job at his role? Most would say not since tanking is holding aggro AND mitigating damage. He got a commendation though from the healer anyway...hopefully he doesn't assume he did good because it would be false.

    The healer commended him because he "thought" (subjective) that the tank did good. In reality the tank didn't use any of his cooldowns the whole dungeon. So this tank should not accept this praise because it is from someone who doesn't have enough knowledge to give him correct feedback. Since it is a random DF PUG and you see you get a commendation after you exit and it also doesn't tell you who gave it to you...then it isn't normally feasible to try to find them and ask them why they gave it to you.

    You cannot use commendations to judge your skill/performance in a piece of content because of all this.

    But yeah, if you gonna call people liars then I guess I'm done. You don't want to listen to reason and I guess If you wanna just keep swimming in ignorance I suppose it is your choice to do so.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Underdog2204 View Post

    LOL this is rich, coming from someone accusing others of stalking:
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    Has a strange air of crazy stalker person about it if you ask me if I'm being honset...
    Well, I guess if you are losing arguments (and can't even handle a 1st semester calculation)
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    No idea tbh.
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