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  1. #141
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    Quote Originally Posted by bswpayton View Post
    Those are all unsync runs you could literally have 100 plus unsync runs that are just for a task, that could take less than five mins long or so , I just simply asked for unsync duties to have their on tab instead of being clustered together as one. Unsync runs tab instance, sync tab instances, just like it is for collectibles you have a tab for gatherers , and a tab for crafters two different things split instead of being clustered together.
    People run statics for Savage, they don't get any coms doing multiple runs in succession. You have people bird farming, they don't get any coms, very fast runs in succession. Unsync means nothing to this, it's just the exact same deal with the only difference being the enemies are made weaker by your higher level. Again, you have resorted to purposely express your own commendations against dungeons, further proving that this is all about your own belief that they are something to show off and use to boast about being good, something many, many people have gave detailed facts on why Commendation is an absolutely pointless system that does not reflect how you play in the slightest.

    Edit: Also, dungeons have a limit in achievement. Once you hit that limit and your dungeons no longer tally, what then? Accept that this was pointless, come back here and beg for more just for your own tally or ask for coms to stop?

    Second edit: OP seems to be continuing the derail to avoid answering questions that actually put her topic on the spot. /endthread.
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    Last edited by Settiesama; 03-05-2017 at 08:04 AM.

  2. #142
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    If your comm ratio matters so much, just dont help people then. How about that? Commendations don't matter. I've already gotten the 3k reward (very lame mount by the way), and now they just pile up with no meaning. I run things unsynced and with full premades all the time. I raid with my static, I help randoms/FC people/friends, and I farm for things frequently (like birds, relics, triad cards, etc.), all usually unsynced or with a premade party, and my comms still outweigh my clears. Your post is useless. Even with unsynced clears, your comms could still outweigh your amount of clears.

    Why do comms even matter so much to you? They are just a number. You don't gain anything substantial from getting a lot of them. They don't mean anything at all. You say they tell you you did a good job, but they don't. You don't know why someone gave you comm. Could be completely unrelated to your performance. I can't even tell you how many times I've given comms because I liked someone's character/name/glamour, they were nice/funny, i felt bad because my fc mates can be freaks/weirdos (sometimes scares people lol), or just because they were wearing pink (my favorite color). I can't even tell how many times I had busted my rump and saved entire runs or did a good job and I still didn't get comms. They mean nothing. Just a number. SE sure as heck do not need to add a system/setting to make the comm to clear ratio more accurate. If it seriously matters that much to you, then keep count yourself, or just dont run anything unsynced or with premades. There's a lot more important things to worry about in this game than player comms. Seriously.

    If you need a meaningless number to give yourself a pat on the back or an ego boost, that's pretty sad.
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  3. #143
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    Quote Originally Posted by LadyKairi View Post
    If your comm ratio matters so much, just dont help people then. How about that? Commendations don't matter. I've already gotten the 3k
    As a mentor I mean that would be kinda wrong of me to not help others and being as how content is in the game I cant really always get a new player a full party. But I see what your sayin 3000 is impressive. I hope to get that amount as I continue playing the game more but I guess people are different I only give them out of performance most of the time never for silly reasons but like I said I get what your saying. I just simply wish there was a more accurate system but unfortunately its not. The game never intended them to be irrelevant tho I dont believe.
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  4. #144
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    Quote Originally Posted by bswpayton View Post
    Because my request is pretty simple its not complex are crazy at all considering some of the things posted on the forums like how people are upset about SE selling an emote on mog station talk about proprieties. If someone thinks commendations dont mean anything at all then the very thought of my post wouldn't make sense to them, but the thing is they do the game says that they do , they dont say that emotes mean anything but clearly to the base they do.

    I mention having alts on my alts I never ran anything unsync and I also tanked on them I believe I have more commendations than instances on my alts. If you are a tank or healer even if some people dont give them, even if some like giving them to dps it is still a guide to whether or not you are preforming up to par. Because I can assure you if I mess up or cause a wipe 9 times out of 10 Im not gettin a commendation. But on my alts for instance my ratio is clear I have no unsync instances that I ran with friends its pure guild heist, trials , and dungeons on there no filler from unsync.

    All I was asking was to not have filler in my instances , because it creates a fabricated illusion of how many instances Ive done where I could be judged on my gaming performance. Because I said this is what a commendation is suppose to be and in most cases thats what it is the reason dps dont get them is because in any dungeon in the game if one dps goes down you can still do your duty. In many of the first dungeons you dont even need 2 dps Id say prob in every dungeon in the game you can finish a duty with 1 tank one healer and one dps. So there is a reason why tanks get them or healers because they just simply are needed more in most of the instances in the game.

    So all I was asking was just like on my alts to have a clear number, of my real duties the ones I actually went in witout just doing content with friends or helpin new players out in unsync content buffing my numbers to the point that my commendation to duty ratio is behind. Why this is so hard to understand is beyond me considering all the things posted on this forum everyday what I am asking is very valid for someone who may want to hold value to commendations.
    1. People are upset because it COSTS TOO MUCH for an emote for ONE character, it is a LEGITIMATE complaint and has nothing to do with your issue, this is called a red herring. So because the issue of what you want, does not relate to mog station issues, I will not respond to it. I can't I only know how to make proper arguments. You did not answer my question.

    2. No, it is not. People give them to tanks and healers because it is more critical to make the run flawless. Some people will give out coms to DPS for lewd glamors. It is purely some kind of OCD issue if you think you need more coms then dungeons ran. It is a SELF imposed thing you are putting on yourself.

    3. I does not matter. you did not explain why it effects GAME PLAY! Why does this need to be tracked? Also you are wrong, some early dungeons can be done without a tank.

    4. Coms is not a measure of performance, it is subjective to the person what is a good performance.

    Quote Originally Posted by Settiesama View Post
    Pretty sure this thread is just going to continue down the exact same path. People ask OP for answers on why she thinks the ratio and commendations truly matter, and she skips or gives an outline of an answer. People respond to the outline, and she skips back a step to simply say it's down to OCD. This is it, this OP is your problem. It's not that you truly believe Commendations to be evidence that you're doing well, as you clearly stated tanks and healers get them just for rolling those roles. What the problem is, if you're not just baiting replies, is that you have OCD about two different meaningless achievements that have different numbers in them.

    Have you considered what you're going to do when you finish that dungeon achievements and it no longer tallies that? How will you know how well you're doing then by Commendations? As for the whole tank mounts, even if unsynced was removed from counting towards the achievement, people will just spam AS1, Bismarck and Ravana more, and they are just as easy now as unsynced things.

    Just admit to yourself that it's an OCD problem, and realise commendations are given out for random and pointless reasons, and is NOT a record of you doing well.
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  5. #145
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ama_Hamada View Post
    All of this...
    ...and I'd like to add:
    You also cant decide what this thread about - is it about unsyched runs not counting towards an achievment that has nothing to with commendations?
    Is it about the meaning of commendations?
    Is it about how you, personally, engage every single aspect of the game? (if this is the case: why do you think that matters in a discussion about ONE aspect of the game? Where did all this EX-primal stuff came from again?)

    Please, I cant even read most of your stuff because you jump from one point from another. Clear your head before you post. Make a list of points and arguments and think about what you really want to say for once - seriously, if it helps you to structure your thoughts, grab a piece of paper and write it down. I would love to really discuss stuff with you, but right now all you bring to the table is... gibberish. You derail your own thread constantly and cant remember what you were actually talking about, OP.
    At somepoint (and I cant be bothered to find it now) you claimed this was about "commendations" when you started off with it being about "unsyched runs shouldnt count towards achievements"... so, make up your mind...

    Quote Originally Posted by bswpayton View Post
    As a mentor I mean that would be kinda wrong of me to not help others and being as how content is in the game I cant really always get a new player a full party. But I see what your sayin 3000 is impressive. I hope to get that amount as I continue playing the game more but I guess people are different I only give them out of performance most of the time never for silly reasons but like I said I get what your saying. I just simply wish there was a more accurate system but unfortunately its not. The game never intended them to be irrelevant tho I dont believe.
    There IS an accurate system. It counts your commendations - and thats about it. Thats as accurate as it has to be and will get. Why does it matter why you get a commendation excatly? Are you that insecure about yourself that you have to take them as pat on the back for your outstanding performance in faceroll easy encounters?
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  6. #146
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vidu View Post
    ...and I'd like to add:
    You also cant decide what this thread about - is it about unsyched runs not counting towards an achievment that has nothing to with commendations?
    All the extra stuff was only brought up by mr elitist the guy with the long post,my original post was about want an accurate number of commendations and he wanted to go on my lodestone and think he discovered a shiny and he really didn't. So I got pissed and got into an argument with him for calling me a lair which I never lied about anything the thing about the forums they will take what you say and have u arguing about other things. He just didnt like the fact that I said that tanks and healer are more important than dps and got salty so we had it out.
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  7. #147
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    Quote Originally Posted by bswpayton View Post
    All the extra stuff was only brought up by mr elitist the guy with the long post,my original post was about want an accurate number of commendations and he wanted to go on my lodestone and think he discovered a shiny and he really didn't. So I got pissed and got into an argument with him for calling me a lair which I never lied about anything the thing about the forums they will take what you say and have u arguing about other things. He just didnt like the fact that I said that tanks and healer are more important than dps and got salty so we had it out.
    You have an accurate number of commendations. You have exactly as many as the game tells you you have. Taking out sync'd or full party runs doesn't change the number of commendations you have received.
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  8. #148
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    Quote Originally Posted by bswpayton View Post
    All the extra stuff was only brought up by mr elitist the guy with the long post,my original post was about want an accurate number of commendations and he wanted to go on my lodestone and think he discovered a shiny and he really didn't. So I got pissed and got into an argument with him for calling me a lair which I never lied about anything the thing about the forums they will take what you say and have u arguing about other things. He just didnt like the fact that I said that tanks and healer are more important than dps and got salty so we had it out.
    1) No, your original post was about a weird "accurate" dungeon-commendation-ratio that you made up, not about an accurate number of commendations
    2) Just to get that out straight away: There is no "accurate" number of commendations, they're given out base on personal impressions after someone spend about 20 minutes with potentially 3 strangers in a videogame and has about 20 seconds at the end to decide which stranger was the most pleasent one to play with - not the best base for an accurate, well calculated decision (or well, I think you could call the game accuratly counting your commendations accurate, right?)
    3) "Most pleasent to play with" can mean anything from "Thanks tank for getting me into the dungeon finally!" to "It was really pleasent to look at a Mi'qo in a pink swimsuit for 20 minutes (sorry for my bad performance, I only had one hand to play") or in some cases "You really did a good job!"
    4) Tanks and heals are NOT more important - they carry more weight, thats true, but having this attitude in a game that does revolve a little around teamwork simply sucks. Calling someone out because they're enjoying a role that you consider "useless" and "unimportant" sucks aswell, so watch out who you're calling salty.
    5) Also: who cares which role is more important? The sole reason tanks and heals are getting more commendations is because we're all waiting on them AND because its easier to see if they're doing an okay job at least. If a tank didnt lost aggro during the dungeon, he obviously did. If no one died, the healer must have done semi-fine at least. If you saw the healer tossing out dps - great, they actually did a good job! But with dps you have to run either a parser OR pay attention to what they're doing (keeping buffs up etc.)
    (also let me tell you: being a good healer or tank is most of the time a lot easier than being an actual good dps - so dont think to highly about your healer-commendations... I've got about 3.600 commendations - and the ones I'm most happy about are the ones I earned as dps or in PvP because I knew that I actually impressed someone by doing more than just being a tank. Or wearing a swimsuit. Because I dont do that, frankly...)
    6) you still havent answered if runs with full groups should count or not.
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  9. #149
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    I'll go with the people who say no. As long as people clear duties and it is valid in the eyes of SE, it shouldn't matter if it is synced or unsynced.

    As far as commendations go, don't worry too much about it. I earn my commendations and I don't really care how much I get because all I care about are helping others, clearing the instances, and getting rewarded (especially the Adventurer in Need Bonuses as tank. *wink)
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    I'm still scratching my head over how OPs threads always generate so many comments, with a debate that goes round in circles.
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