Stop Giving the "Need" Command for Drop Gear in Dungeons to Higher Geared Players!

[Vidu]

Something much simpler: make the "need" option available to everyone.
This goes in line with the people who want to keep rolling "need" too.

So... basically: remove "need", replace it with "greed" and make sure no one ever gets an item for the class they're on...?

[Cordie]

So... basically: remove "need", replace it with "greed" and make sure no one ever gets an item for the class they're on...?

That shouldn't be a problem. See:

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No 4 man dungeon drop in the game is current gear.
Anything that can be traded in for gc seals is not current gear.
anything not on a weekly lockout isn't current gear.
therefore his whole complaint is based on people rolling need on thing that isn't current bis. So why does he need it? He doesn't. Woah.

Poor you. Run the dungeon again.

Even if they win the roll, it's still completely fair and equal, and it doesn't matter one iota what they plan to use it for. Them using it for GC seals or desynthesis or glamour is just as valid and "necessary" as you using it for stats. In fact, it's often more "necessary" for someone using it for purposes other than stats because any dungeon gear used for stats is going to be replaced soon.

[ManuelBravo]

That shouldn't be a problem. See:

It actually is a problem makes us redo runs more just to get gear for our needs? it cuts on our other activities such as FC raids and such. It disrupts the purpose of having roles in a party. Kind of funny people who you can't their profile on Loadstone are mainly the only ones who you can tell that have a problem. Do you tank? Do you heal? of do you just focus on DPS because your either a terrible Tank or a terrible Healer? I can't say but that would explain a lot of things based on your responses. Could you allow public access? Just curious on your current stats and Jobs leveled. Also have you tried doing unsync dungeons? No tank and Healer and everyone can DPS and play the Job they want. How far can you get with that?

[Cordie]

It actually is a problem makes us redo runs more just to get gear for our needs? it cuts on our other activities such as FC raids and such. It disrupts the purpose of having roles in a party.

Like someone mntioned before:

Poor you. Run the dungeon again.

Do you heal? of do you just focus on DPS because your either a terrible Tank or a terrible Healer?

Can't be bothered to look into that horrid Lodestone settings menu atm, however, BLM: what you see, WHM: i261 average with i270 relic, AST/SCH: same as WHM with i240 weapons (average should be close to 260, didn't check), lolSMN: what you see with a 240 weapon, DRK: i250ish with i255 weapon, MNK: can't even remember!)
So, yes, I'm healer/dps mostly, tank for older patch content (to help FC/friends most of the time).

[ManuelBravo]

Like someone mntioned before:






Can't be bothered to look into that horrid Lodestone settings menu atm, however, BLM: what you see, WHM: i261 average with i270 relic, AST/SCH: same as WHM with i240 weapons (average should be close to 260, didn't check), lolSMN: what you see with a 240 weapon, DRK: i250ish with i255 weapon, MNK: can't even remember!)
So, yes, I'm healer/dps mostly, tank for older patch content (to help FC/friends most of the time).

So in some other words you can't back it up and blame the settings menu? Ok that explains a lot and now I understand your answers. If you can't figure out nor even take the time to make an effort you have proven the point of most people here, even after break downs, and given optional solutions I can only come to one conclusion. You want things handed to you and IF by any chance you feel like doing it you will. "Poor you"

[Cordie]

So in some other words you can't back it up and blame the settings menu? Ok that explains a lot and now I understand your answers. If you can't figure out nor even take the time to make an effort you have proven the point of most people here, even after break downs, and given optional solutions I can only come to one conclusion. You want things handed to you and IF by any chance you feel like doing it you will. "Poor you"

Not blaming the settings menu, but I really don't see any reason to go log in somewhere on mobile, and change privacy/whatever settings just because some random needs to check me out.

It's much of the same for you actually, if you want things handed to you just because you picked a class/job to run a d/f dungeon.

[Vidu]

That shouldn't be a problem. See:

I dont really see your point?
You seem to base your opinion upon the idea that gear is ONLY needed for stat-progression when we already mentioned that that isnt true.
With everyone being able to roll "need" (or greed) on an item it lowers your chance to actually get an item you're looking for, you realise that, yes? Because you're not only on the mercy of said item dropping but also rolling against up to 7 other people for it - with the current system you wont have any competition most of the time (safe maybe for dps and heals in the 24-man-raids, but we werent talking about those anyways) - dungeons are normally trying not to pair you up with the same sort of dps.

So... when you wanted to advocate for OPs request you did a pretty bad job... and even if you didnt I dont consider your solution a viable one. Right now I can go into a dungeon and be sure that I will get certain gear IF it drops instead of having a 25% chance. Even for dps, who can, in theory, get paired with the same class again and have a 50% chance, this would suck - so who excatly would benefit here?

[Cordie]

You seem to base your opinion upon the idea that gear is ONLY needed for stat-progression when we already mentioned that that isnt true.

With everyone being able to roll "need" (or greed) on an item it lowers your chance to actually get an item you're looking for, you realise that, yes?

So you want to have both ways to your convenience?
Pick one and stick with it.

[Skivvy]

So you want to have both ways to your convenience?
Pick one and stick with it.

You have the option to make your lotting life more convenient as well. Play as the job you want the gear on. The end.

[Vidu]

So you want to have both ways to your convenience?
Pick one and stick with it.

You mean because I mentioned both need and greed? I only did that because the way you want the "need"-option to change it would actually be closer to greed - I might aswell have left one out or called it "nreed"