Stop Giving the "Need" Command for Drop Gear in Dungeons to Higher Geared Players!

[ManuelBravo]

If my previous post seemed negative to you here are some solutions that I can suggest as a Mentor and Vet player to you.

Solution one ; Build your own or group with like minded players and do the gear farming that way.

Solution two ; Reach out to your FC for assistance for someone who will not loot NEED.

Solution three ; Being there is so many people here who can see or agree to your suggestions build a private party on party finder. IT IS NOW CROSS SERVER. / or transfer servers.

Solution four: Create your own FC

Solution five ; Change your mentality ....see my previous post

I hope these may help you to achieve your goals being that now a days people aren't looking outside the box.

[Cordie]

Something much simpler: make the "need" option available to everyone.
This goes in line with the people who want to keep rolling "need" too.

[Newmanxeno]

If my previous post seemed negative to you here are some solutions that I can suggest as a Mentor and Vet player to you.

Solution one ; Build your own or group with like minded players and do the gear farming that way.

Solution two ; Reach out to your FC for assistance for someone who will not loot NEED.

Solution three ; Being there is so many people here who can see or agree to your suggestions build a private party on party finder. IT IS NOW CROSS SERVER. / or transfer servers.

Solution four: Create your own FC

Solution five ; Change your mentality ....see my previous post

I hope these may help you to achieve your goals being that now a days people aren't looking outside the box.

I like this. There are a lot of different ways you can go about this other than imposing new rules.

[Llus]

Obviously we need a new safe zone for everyone. So, instead of loot - everyone should get 1 token per run to turn in for gear. Obviously you'd need 4 tokens for body and legs, 2 tokens for head, hands and feet and 7 tokens for weapons. That would avoid the need to communicate with other players during dungeon runs and would avoid all conflicts while giving everyone a participation award. We could even do away with chat in dungeons while we're at it and really make it safe.

/s

[ManuelBravo]

Something much simpler: make the "need" option available to everyone.
This goes in line with the people who want to keep rolling "need" too.

In other words if you can't get it, it's unfair and other people should have to deal with it?

Everyone has the NEED Option it just applied to the the item and Role it belongs to. It's fair even tanks if we want mage we don't get the need option. Should we also give everyone a free relic just because they need one? Or a mount for PvP because they need one and didn't participate? See were I'm going with this? You don't get a trophy for trying. Play the role or farm it. See suggestions.

[ManuelBravo]

Obviously we need a new safe zone for everyone. So, instead of loot - everyone should get 1 token per run to turn in for gear. Obviously you'd need 4 tokens for body and legs, 2 tokens for head, hands and feet and 7 tokens for weapons. That would avoid the need to communicate with other players during dungeon runs and would avoid all conflicts while giving everyone a participation award. We could even do away with chat in dungeons while we're at it and really make it safe.

/s

Safe Zone? Should we also suggest a Safe Zone safe Zone forum? or band trigger words? If you mean like lvl 50 dungeons were you trade a piece for a job specific type gear, perhaps in the future? not sure how it would tie in with all jobs though.

[Llus]

Safe Zone? Should we also suggest a Safe Zone dungeon for those who feel that RNG is out to get them? What happens when everyone has NEED ? will it be based on total damage as well? Kind of kills it in my opinion.

Please see: "/S"

[Felis]

Something much simpler: make the "need" option available to everyone.
This goes in line with the people who want to keep rolling "need" too.

Everyone can already roll on Need, if their current job can wear the equip.

[Vidu]

Something much simpler: make the "need" option available to everyone.
This goes in line with the people who want to keep rolling "need" too.

So... basically: remove "need", replace it with "greed" and make sure no one ever gets an item for the class they're on...?

[Cordie]

So... basically: remove "need", replace it with "greed" and make sure no one ever gets an item for the class they're on...?

That shouldn't be a problem. See:

[...]
No 4 man dungeon drop in the game is current gear.
Anything that can be traded in for gc seals is not current gear.
anything not on a weekly lockout isn't current gear.
therefore his whole complaint is based on people rolling need on thing that isn't current bis. So why does he need it? He doesn't. Woah.

Poor you. Run the dungeon again.

Even if they win the roll, it's still completely fair and equal, and it doesn't matter one iota what they plan to use it for. Them using it for GC seals or desynthesis or glamour is just as valid and "necessary" as you using it for stats. In fact, it's often more "necessary" for someone using it for purposes other than stats because any dungeon gear used for stats is going to be replaced soon.