People can't handle rare fates, enough with waiting 1 + RL days for anything

[Kiriezaiku]

This is less about the greed/jerk/whatever pulling problems, and a lot more about the extreme difficulty in even catching the fate or the short weather that spawns it at all.

These fates that spawn so infrequently with short windows are frustrating as heck! If it's goning to be that rare, drop the horns or whatever the reward is on completion, but hunting it not just once but a minumum of twice (if you're lucky!) is terrible. Just have the fate spawn on a proper timer so we can have a shot at it, or make the item you get from ultima in dun scaith be an alternate trade for the horns.
The horns have been around awhile, let the rest of us finally have a better means to get them please.

[Xandos]

As several other people have explained there is no early pulling. I have sat at fates and hunts for 5 minutes before pulling, killed the monster, and started leaving and still people are showing up asking for invites. There will always be someone running behind or that got the notification late.

If you see a shout go out about a fate and you take your time, then you are to blame if you are late.
If you see a shout go out about a fate and you drop everything to get there and you are still late, then get a better notification network.

[Shougun]

As several other people have explained there is no early pulling. I have sat at fates and hunts for 5 minutes before pulling, killed the monster, and started leaving and still people are showing up asking for invites. There will always be someone running behind or that got the notification late.

If you see a shout go out about a fate and you take your time, then you are to blame if you are late.
If you see a shout go out about a fate and you drop everything to get there and you are still late, then get a better notification network.

I think on smaller servers this stuff makes more sense but I really don't think people understand what happens on a max sized server.. Or people should consider at a certain point its criticism of the system, and desire of something different (higher quantity for example).

These FATEs, even the important ones, can evaporate within moments. Again, same zone, drop everything, and you could still miss out. EVEN IF you make it to the monster, because there are so many people you may not get credit because the system can barely handle it (boosting your enmity through silly tactics works well). Perhaps the argument becomes first come first serve oh well, but the dynamic of FATEs and how they feel is drastically different based on the quantity of players.

I think at a certain point its not "people don't wait for each other" but that people are saying they don't like group content when there are too many players around, akin to saying you don't like NM camping / losing out on the reward even though you tried to be there and get it done and would like to see the system change (which is a valid criticism/desire, even if the system works as intended it could be people don't like that it works that way).

Of course absolutely players who come 15 minutes later and wonder why its dead and rage, but I'm saying in full servers you have seconds not minutes to respond (when content is important/active, and is not balanced like Odin lol).

[DaikiKiyoshi]

Well people always have the option to transfer lol. Why people choose to stay in such overcrowded worlds when they are sick of the problems associated with them is beyond me. Especially when there are so many dead/dying worlds they could spread out to.

[ErryK]

Not really seeing the issue there since they are already indirectly adding gear to the mogstation via jump potions. I was just requesting that option be expanded upon.

And people are requesting the option to obtain the Ultima Horns or Spotted Spencer and such be expanded upon outside of FATES. Stop being a hypocrite.

[Shougun]

Well people always have the option to transfer lol. Why people choose to stay in such overcrowded worlds when they are sick of the problems associated with them is beyond me. Especially when there are so many dead/dying worlds they could spread out to.

Because I don't want to pay $20 to fix SE's problem? If systems become unbalanced at certain levels they should be aware and design for that, like perhaps not letting so many people onto one server lol. If SE made it so AST is way better than WHM, player response shouldn't be "well just never play WHM again" of course a temproary solution is to not play it again, but the ultimate responsibility is on SE to fix the issue they've created / manage. Although because FATEs are probably not seen as important content I doubt they'll care to do anything about these max server issues, at least this specific one (houses seriously needs to be looked at though). Also I was placed into Balmung at it's creation (Fabul), so it's not like I paid into watching all these wonderful issues. The full cities and extremely active market is nice, but FATEs and other open party system when useful are just broke lol.

Luckily for me I don't care for the horns, so I saw the thread and was like oh a Balmung player - good luck mate XD. But missing the FATE doesn't hurt me. FATEs on Balmung is important to get into the ball of death, if you're not in the ball of death you're not getting the FATE.

[Dreggit]

Well people always have the option to transfer lol. Why people choose to stay in such overcrowded worlds when they are sick of the problems associated with them is beyond me. Especially when there are so many dead/dying worlds they could spread out to.

Come to Famfrit. It's a great place to be lonely ;_;

[Arutan]

The fact remains if they made it in time you could too.

Well, actually, before I get a real PC, maps overpopulated for a NM or big fate took 2 to 3 min to load and the mob in question died before I even finish to load. On the rare cases it finally loaded and I could still reach it in time, I was waiting for the game to make the mob appear on my screen so that I can aim it, but it seems making player appear is more important.
At least now that I got a real PC I insta load and doesn't have trouble on the mob spawn.

[DaikiKiyoshi]

And people are requesting the option to obtain the Ultima Horns or Spotted Spencer and such be expanded upon outside of FATES. Stop being a hypocrite.

OP requested changes to the system be made, which when it comes to the kind of scenario they are complaining about, usually involves suggestions of locking said FATE or Hunt from being able to be attacked at all for X minutes after spawn or punishing so called early pullers by reducing the rewards they receive or increasing the HP of the mobs (which may not be a bad idea if they somehow programmed the HP increase only for the more populated servers because then the ones on the dying servers would never be killed). So if they are suggesting it be added to the cash shop or the HP be increased for heavily populated worlds, right on. But they were rather vague so I just assumed the worst case scenario.

[Beckett]