People can't handle rare fates, enough with waiting 1 + RL days for anything

[Ama_Hamada]

Yanno... I have no problems with FATES like Odin, Behemoth and Prey Online (Proto Ultima), but the one I DO have a gripe with is Couerlregina.

I have been wanting to finish that achievement for a while now and I've completed the first stage more than once. But the whole, "Okay, see you in 4 hours for the next part!" bit really annoys me. I wouldn't mind if it was a rare 3-part spawn if the FATEs spawned back to back, but 4 hours between parts??? And if you miss the last part 8 hours later (provided people actually showed up to kill the second part)? Welp, too bad, wait for it to spawn againl Just utterly ridiculous to expect a player to have to plan pretty much an entire work day around making sure they can get to the 3rd FATE when it spawns and get Gold on it as well...

Your post makes no sense, you are stating the exact problem for one but not saying it is a problem for another because it does not personally effect you. People should not be waiting 12+ hours after a rl day for a 15 sec window and dies in 50 seconds. That is way too demanding.

BTW i never seen odin die in 50 seconds, can't compare.

as for DaikiKiyoshi:

I bet you also wonder why toxicity online is a thing, this is exactly why, people mouthing off from assumed meanings and not trying to talk/cooperate.

[Malzian]

Your post makes no sense, you are stating the exact problem for one but not saying it is a problem for another because it does not personally effect you. People should not be waiting 12+ hours after a rl day for a 15 sec window and dies in 50 seconds. That is way too demanding.

BTW i never seen odin die in 50 seconds, can't compare.

as for DaikiKiyoshi:

The problem for Coerlregina is different than for the others. Odin, Behemoth and Proto Ultima show up and if you're there you can kill it and be done. You only have to be at the FATE -one time- during the day it spawns. For Couerlregina, not only do you have to be there on the day it spawns, but you end up having to block off 8 hours of your day to make sure you get to the FATE spawn 3 times.... Not once... 3 times. Imagine if Odin was 3 parts like that and you had to finish all 3 parts to get the full reward?

Odin doesn't bother me so much... If I'm there I can do it and move on. If I'm not, I miss it and wait 1.5 days (which used to be 3 days, btw, they already shortened the spawn length). If Couerlregina pops and I make the first one, I now must plan out to be there 2 more times at various points of the day, which generally involves setting an alarm to remember and making sure that I don't go anywhere during that day provided I even have that luxury since, you know, life. It's far worse to get than any of the other FATEs with long spawns because it basically demands you be on the game for 8 hours to complete it fully.

So let me clarify this exactly: I do not mind the initial wait time on any of the FATEs. What I mind is the specific demand of an 8-hour block of time that Couerlregina requires to fully complete that the others do not. Fight Odin, win or lose and you're done until the next time it spawns. Fight Couerlregina and win... Get ready to block off your day so you can win 2 more times.

[Vaer]

IMO the main problem with these FATEs is that probably no one wants to sit in a zone forever camping it just to get a chance at doing it.

They could mitigate this issue by adding something to the weather checker NPC or some sort of "Town Crier" NPC that has a zone wide prompt in Foundation like the Gold Saucer ones that will notify you within 1 hour if Royal Levin or Hyperelectricity is going to spawn in the zone(s). That at least cuts it down to an hour or two of waiting and makes it way more accessible.

[Kiriezaiku]

IMO the main problem with these FATEs is that probably no one wants to sit in a zone forever camping it just to get a chance at doing it.

They could mitigate this issue by adding something to the weather checker NPC or some sort of "Town Crier" NPC that has a zone wide prompt in Foundation like the Gold Saucer ones that will notify you within 1 hour if Royal Levin or Hyperelectricity is going to spawn in the zone(s). That at least cuts it down to an hour or two of waiting and makes it way more accessible.

A lot of this right here. The weather spawn is so short, heck you could be sitting in Azys Lla all day, get up for a snack and miss it!

[Kuroka]

Not anymore, its longer now since the patch. Stil its awful, as its an dead zone and you cant do anything there...

[Ama_Hamada]

Not anymore, its longer now since the patch. Stil its awful, as its an dead zone and you cant do anything there...

No it is NOT! it appeared and my friend missed it and my friend thought the fate was gone because of it.

These requirements of these fates is inhuman and should be changed!

Or are you calling 15 seconds > 45 seconds "longer"? it is not a difference from a practical standpoint.

[Shougun]

It's funny to see how different server perspectives are, "we can't kill it not enough people" vs "the thing dies instantly literally no time, get out of here with this wrong logic that those who tried for it got it - even those who try don't sometimes". If there are A LOT the reward system gets really messy due to the speed things die.

Of course I'm with Ama in the later boat, unless the content is worthless/old (rewards) the open party content is incredibly temperamental even when you don't include people who come 15 mins late.

The mega FATE Odin seems okay to me, his HP and mechanics alotting a bit more time I guess so there are exceptions, but mostly it's a circus lol.

[Ama_Hamada]

It's funny to see how different server perspectives are, "we can't kill it not enough people" vs "the thing dies instantly literally no time, get out of here with this wrong logic that those who tried for it got it - even those who try don't sometimes". If there are A LOT the reward system gets really messy due to the speed things die.

Of course I'm with Ama in the later boat, unless the content is worthless/old (rewards) the open party content is incredibly temperamental even when you don't include people who come 15 mins late.

The mega FATE Odin seems okay to me, his HP and mechanics alotting a bit more time I guess so there are exceptions, but mostly it's a circus lol.

Yes that is why I was calling the comparison unfair, Odin does not die in 50 seconds.

[Altena]

A serious note to the OP. While something may or may not be done about this, you can give yourself an edge when it comes to making it to open world content.. Something that I am sure you are probably already aware of but I will say it anyway -

If you're on PC, consider installing the game on an SSD (if it isn't already) to speed up load times which will help you get to world events faster.
If you're on a PS4 then I can't really suggest any other option here (can/do PS4s use SSD? I don't even know, I am not a console gamer).


This is going to happen in Stormblood, just as it's happening now. You will miss out on stuff because people will rush in and the content will be over.

The only time I have ever unintentionally missed a Hunt or FATE was due to my own doing. Whether I was crafting, or busy with something and had to finish it off before teleporting.. That and/or I was told about it far too late to make it anyway (mob was already pulled before I heard about it).

The server I am on is not as big, admittedly however...

Personally I don't understand why there are so many people who complain about server population on Balmung.. I mean you are on the most populated server by choice I presume? That stuff will happen if you choose to remain there. I don't want to pull that "Blame Balmung" rubbish but it really makes me wonder why people complain about something that they missed out on, then when someone gives them options, one of the immediate responses is "Your server isn't as populated as mine!"

I guess it just baffles me how you all try and cram onto a hugely populated server, then complain about it being too crowded? Boggles my mind.

It's like asking for a extra hot curry, then complain that it's too hot.


*edit*

Please realise I am not saying "well change servers!"

My main point here is why are you on an overpopulated server if you have issues with overcrowding?

[Shougun]

The SSD is super helpful! Loadings being short is an imperative, you can easily respond instantly and still miss the content due to loading, so that's a good tip.

As for the server thing please keep in mind not everyone transferred into Balmung when it was overflowing- I've been on Balmung since its birth. Which is why I definitely go to the "this is not my causing / native choice" (why did you pick the broken server Shougun!? Uh I didn't ? SE allowed it to break lol). SE with the keys to the gates, and the know how design limitations of their own systems, I shouldn't have to pay to run away because SE let things get out of hand (pay to leave friends and FC, and have to cobble all my Gil into transportable goods and sell in a new server - something Vexander had pointed out in another thread is a great way to encourage people to quit as they lose their connections).

Although I'll recognize that you said you're not telling me to leave :P, I was just having a natural follow for those not from Balmung might suggest so I auto responded lol. This is most definitely SE falling asleep at the immigration offices though which is why I don't accept people's attempt to blame it on players. People even in real life will not really self account for density issues but a wise government can handle the flow, none is bad, some is good, flood will put strain on the current residents. So I don't blame players who tried and succeeded in getting in, as again SE is the gate master and should be able to say when stuff is going to break or not (due to our population the next housing release has a 100% chance people and FC will be left out xD). Although I do have point out that it's specific systems that break not the entire sever (usually) / all content, so FATEs/Hunts are quite different feeling on big servers and housing as well.